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I knew dumb reactionary threads like this would emerge after the Ft. Hood shootings. This is just another low IQ moment by individuals who choose not to think. What the radical right is deliberately ignoring is that there were several red flags regarding this individual before the shootings occurred. The military just didn't do anything about it. This wasn't a normal individual, Muslim or no Muslim, that just went nuts one day. He had several complaints filed against him by his own colleagues. He had a poor evaluation. He was transferred because of the poor job he did at Walter Reed. He had a reputation of preaching Islam in unrelated powepoints and trying to convert people. I'm sorry but 99% of Muslims in the military have not had the types of red flags he has had. Therefore to indict all Muslims and to say they shouldn't serve in the military is assinine.
There are over 3500 Muslim soldiers in the military who are serving. There are Muslims who have died in combat serving the United States. But of course, let's forget the memory of those individuals and judge all Muslims based on this shooter. Seriously, the stupidity on this forum never ceases to amaze me.
Me, either. That's why I enjoy it so.
I think a lot of people on this forum do not have everyday exposure to Muslims.
Yes there were many American Germans fighting in the U.S. armed forces. Many of them were more than a couple generations removed from living in Germany however.
There were American Germans in the US forces in Europe, as well as American Italians. There were also some American born people who ended up in the German armed forces because their parents/grandparents were still showing allegiance to the Fatherland.
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The American Japanese is quite another story. If there were any in the U.S. armed forces; I can guarantee they were not fighting on the ground in the Pacific.
American Japanese people tended to work in intelligence in the Pacific; there was also the mostly ethnic Japanese 442nd Regimental Combat Team that fought in France and Italy and received more commendations and medals proportionally than any other unit.
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As far as I know, just about every Japanese person was in an interment camp during the war. Part of this is because most Japanese living in the U.S. at that time were not born in the U.S. and the ones that were did not have a long enough family history generation wise in the U.S. to be trusted blindly. Not to mention it was well known Japan had plans to invade the U.S. mainland. For the most part Germany did not.
Many men in the 442nd enlisted right out of the internment camps, because they felt that strongly that they should fight against the Japanese (yes, the Japanese) and the Germans.
If all grens are grons then all grons must be grens.
Since 1+2=3, 3 must equal 1.
All Indians wear red shoes because the one I saw did.
If we excluded all people from the military because someone of their race or creed were at any time terrorists, we'd have to exclude Irish, Asians, Non-Irish (lesser) Europeans, Catholics, Protestants, Blacks, Latinos, and police dogs. Probably dolphins too. Who's left?
If all grens are grons then all grons must be grens.
Since 1+2=3, 3 must equal 1.
All Indians wear red shoes because the one I saw did.
If we excluded all people from the military because someone of their race or creed were at any time terrorists, we'd have to exclude Irish, Asians, Non-Irish (lesser) Europeans, Catholics, Protestants, Blacks, Latinos, and police dogs. Probably dolphins too. Who's left?
you started ok, you ended in flames.... you don't get it.
It would obviously be a violation of our Constitution and our most basic principles to exclude Muslims from the armed forces. Anyone who says otherwise has not the slightest idea what real American values are.
Having said all that, given our record of aggression and slaughter across the world, I can't understand why any decent human being--Muslim, Christian, Jew, atheist, or anything else--would want to join the U.S. armed services. They are merely paid accomplices to murder and mayhem.
Having said all that, given our record of aggression and slaughter across the world, I can't understand why any decent human being--Muslim, Christian, Jew, atheist, or anything else--would want to join the U.S. armed services. They are merely paid accomplices to murder and mayhem.
Then I would suggest that you find some of our nations finest and ask them why they are part of the Finest Fighting Force in the World.
Should muslims be allowed in the military? Why not? Would you like them to start discriminating based on religion? If that's the case, I say no one of any religious persuasion should be allowed in the military, only atheists.
Should muslims be allowed in the military? Why not? Would you like them to start discriminating based on religion? If that's the case, I say no one of any religious persuasion should be allowed in the military, only atheists.
Then I would suggest that you find some of our nations finest and ask them why they are part of the Finest Fighting Force in the World.
You actually might learn something.
I might, if I were a psychiatrist. As it is, all the hoo-yah, wave-the-flag, America F*** Yeah! sort of nonsense I would hear from them would be indecipherable to me, just as indecipherable as the same sentiments are when I hear them from people on this board. I would have to conclude, as I do when I read similar idiocy on this board, that (1) they are ignorant enough to know nothing about America's real record, (2) they are amoral enough not to care about it, or (3) they are crazy enough to believe that America is allowed to do things other countries are not, just because hey, it's America. In any of the three cases, the adjective "Orwellian" applies equally well.
P.S. My father and both grandfathers were in the military. I have no shortage of personal accounts to draw from.
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) Europeans, Catholics, Protestants, Blacks, Latinos, and police dogs. Probably dolphins too. Who's left?
