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This claim has been made on the "Fort Hood" thread and I am interested in exploring it.
Clarification: I am not looking for evidence such as "Bush obviously has terrible disdain for them because he sent them to die in a stupid war..." etc. etc.
Rather, I am looking for specific examples of disrespectful actions and words.
For example, he has clearly exhibited disdain for American religion (the horribly condescending clinging to "guns and religion" remark)
Please stick to providing facts and analysing them, not "rhetoric" (partisan name-calling on both sides).
Thank you!
I wouldn't even pretend to know what Obama might be thinking.
I do know that this video comparing Dubya and Barry is quite telling;
No I would not say that he exhibts disdain for those who serve. Under values perhaps but not disdain.
Now Bill Clinton no question about it. Hillary ? Whoa there aint no love in her heart for those who wear the uniform.
Obama has yet to openly disrespect those who serve. I give him credit for that. There are many within his party who make no secret how they feel. Starting with the speaker of the house.
Thanks for posting that, and yes I agree, it is quite revealing.
This is exactly what I am trying to get at -- what accounts for that difference in reception? Is it in response to anything President Obama has actually said?
Thanks for posting that, and yes I agree, it is quite revealing.
This is exactly what I am trying to get at -- what accounts for that difference in reception? Is it in response to anything President Obama has actually said?
Obama talks "at you" and not "to you"
Dubya, on the other hand, was just one of the guys ... he was casual, kind, and spoke "to" the situation, and "to" the people ... Obama doesn't do this.
Obama wears a suit and tie ... Dubya, wears a polo shirt ..
Obama doesn't feel the need to salute the flag, whereas, Dubya saluted every chance he got.
Dubya spoke in reasonable tones, whereas Obama "uptalks".
Dubya, through all of his bloops, bleeps, and blunders, came off as being more human.
Obama, on the otherhand, is too regimented ... terrified of saying the wrong thing, or mispronouncing even one word.
Obama needs to relax ... it's okay to be human you know .. and the sooner Obama gets his mind wrapped around that, the sooner folks might warm up to him.
Dubya, on the other hand, was just one of the guys ... he was casual, kind, and spoke "to" the situation, and "to" the people ... Obama doesn't do this.
Obama wears a suit and tie ... Dubya, wears a polo shirt ..
Obama doesn't feel the need to salute the flag, whereas, Dubya saluted every chance he got.
Dubya spoke in reasonable tones, whereas Obama "uptalks".
Yep--I forgot about that one, thanks!
Yet in fairness to the president, let's not forget about this one:
Obama breaks from Bush by saluting coffins of 18 Americans killed in Afghanistan
that video has been explained before. its some standard army procedure. i was surprised to originally, but the two meetings were different. its hard to explain, but thats what i was told.
that video has been explained before. its some standard army procedure. i was surprised to originally, but the two meetings were different. its hard to explain, but thats what i was told.
The difference here is that Obama "demands" respect because he is the President. troops that hear "Hail To The Chief" are forced to stand at attention ... (note that I said "demand" and not "command")
Dubya never really did that .. he already knew that he was the boss and so didn't feel the need to rub it in by playing "Hail To The Chief" every time he entered a room. Dubya commanded respect, so the responses were quite different than those of Obama.
As an added note;
Even if Dubya had played "Hail To The Chief" upon entering ... what do you think the troop response would be once they were put at ease? ... My money says they would have responded no differently than they already did without having to stand at attention in the first place.
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that video has been explained before. its some standard army procedure. i was surprised to originally, but the two meetings were different. its hard to explain, but thats what i was told.
The difference here is that Obama "demands" respect because he is the President. troops that hear "Hail To The Chief" are forced to stand at attention ... (note that I said "demand" and not "command")
Dubya never really did that .. he already knew that he was the boss and so didn't feel the need to rub it in by playing "Hail To The Chief" every time he entered a room. Dubya commanded respect, so the responses were quite different than those of Obama.
no you idiot lol. its an army procedure, katiana just explained it, standing at attention as katiana said.
that means you do nothing. you stand there with your head straight up at eye level with no movements.
bush they werent at attention.
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