The Senate Won't Run With It (Congress, health care, Barack Obama, insurance)

[bigskydude]

The glow from a health care triumph faded quickly for President Barack Obama on Sunday as Democrats realized the bill they fought so hard to pass in the House has nowhere to go in the Senate....

The problem is that the Senate won't run with it. The government health insurance plan included in the House bill is unacceptable to a few Democratic moderates who hold the balance of power in the Senate.

Rough road ahead for health care in Senate - Health care reform- msnbc.com

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Hard to predict. It was only on Friday that the House Democrats didn't have enough votes to pass the bill. Twenty-four hours later, they did.

[bigskydude]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

Hard to predict. It was only on Friday that the House Democrats didn't have enough votes to pass the bill. Twenty-four hours later, they did.

You're right about that of course, but then If the PO and Abortion are removed, then what?

Any thoughts?

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by bigskydude

You're right about that of course, but then If the PO and Abortion are removed, then what?

I haven't heard anything about abolishing the Post Office.

[Buzz is Back]

A bill will pass- and the Insurance companies can reap the last big profits for a long time .

[bigskydude]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

I haven't heard anything about abolishing the Post Office.

Oooh .. yer a funny one today

It seems that one side wants government funded abortion while the other side doesn't and vice versa on the public option

[Memphis1979]

Oh they'll throw enough pork the way of the swing Senators to get it packed.

This is the reason why the line item veto never passed.

[Jadex]

Originally Posted by Buzz is Back

A bill will pass- and the Insurance companies can reap the last big profits for a long time .

Profit is better then debt.

I would rather the one that knows how to make a profit then the one that denies more treatment, cant stick to a budget and in debt

[thrillobyte]

If a government plan is part of the deal, "as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote," said Sen. Joe Lieberman

Translated: "If Congress gives the American public a choice between Big Insurance and an affordable government option that takes even a dime out of the pockets of my good buddies, Stephen J. Hemsley and Ronald A. Williams then as a matter of being beholden to them for all the money they kicked into my campaign I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote."

Lieberman thinks people don't see through his baloney, or worse, he doesn't care if they do.

I'd like to know if the House allowed to pass the fine that will be imposed if people don't get a policy. The insurance giants are salivating at that. And if it passes, what will the uninsured do, besides scratch themselves and pass air?

[bigskydude]

Originally Posted by thrillobyte

Translated: "If Congress gives the American public a choice between Big Insurance and an affordable government option that takes even a dime out of the pockets of my good buddies, Stephen J. Hemsley and Ronald A. Williams then as a matter of being beholden to them for all the money they kicked into my campaign I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote."

I don't think that the government plan will be less expensive than any of the private plan .. (I think I read somewhere that it would be more expensive)

And if that's true, then the insurance industry will, of course, raise their rates to match the government.