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Old 11-09-2009, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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This film sounds like a commercial for the Organic Food Industry and those Alice Waters types out there that seek to demonize those that aren't willing to shell out $5.00 a pop for an Apple..

While I do agree with eating healthier and NOT allowing chemicals into our foods, I believe that this whole "Buy Local Organic" is an elitist movement.. Maybe an effort should be made to make healthier foods less expensive and more accessible to working class and poor families.. Instead though, it seems that many leaders in the "Anti-Big Food Movement" are proposing adding taxes to food items that are deemed "Bad" and "Unnecessary", for example: The movement to tax sodas and carbonated soft drinks.. While soda and other such items may not be the most healthy choices, sticking big government into people's refrigerators and kitchen cupboards in order to strong arm them into making better choices reaks of totalitarianism..

Affordability combined with education will allow more people to make better choices.. That said, it comes down to CHOICE..

I've seen too many people in the Enviornmentalist/Pro-Organic movement that come across like religious fundamentalists.
About 20 minutes of the movie was spent talking about how Wal-Mart has entered the organic food market, specifically mentioning Stonybrook Yogurt.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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For the record, the movie did not focus on requiring more government intervention, but spoke directly on how people are abstracted from the process of how food is brought from farm to dinner table. Education is key. Are there pro-government idealists who've watched this? Well yes, but there were also crunchy granola libertarians who are far more conservative on fiscal policies than anyone on this thread as well.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You've seen it?


"Since lobbyists at the biggest firms buy politicians (see above), it stands to reason that bucking that trends sends a message to Washington that our food choices will not be decided upon whom THEY favor."

Do you seriously believe they only buy politicians?


Have you been paying attention to the health care debate. Everyone with a financial stake has been busy making their deals behind closed doors. The only party left out is us.

It really doesn't matter what the movie has to say. It's a propaganda piece that pushes a particular agenda (organic farming) by demonizing the other side with a lot of innuendo and alleged links that may, or may not, actually exist.

To answer your next question; Yes, I know that without seeing the video. I am, after all, an adult.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:54 AM
 
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About 20 minutes of the movie was spent talking about how Wal-Mart has entered the organic food market, specifically mentioning Stonybrook Yogurt.


I can't wait till someone finds out Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, or some other interested party, has been funding this crap from behind the scenes.
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I can't wait till someone finds out Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, or some other interested party, has been funding this crap from behind the scenes.
Proof, or is this tinfoilhattery? Cite or it didn't happen.
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I rented a DVD documentary this weekend called "Food, Inc.".

I always read about the large food conglomerates that control 92% of the food in the USA and have viewed other documentaries about it, but this film will change the way I buy food to feed my family.

I have never been a "fast food" consumer, occasionally I'll pick up a burger but after watching this film which opened my eyes to the bullying nature of the food producers in the USA I will be extremely wary of buying any fast food.

The film isn't so much about the gory unsanitary and inhumane conditions which food is produced (although that is featured as well), but about the politics and companies and players behind keeping this machine the dominant factor in USA agribusiness.

Official Food, Inc. Movie Site - Hungry For Change?

I recommend concerned consumers (which should be everyone) to view this movie.

What are your thoughts?
There already is a thread on this subject and may I add, we can all rent DVDs about anything we want and anyone can make one as well. Beleive what you want, you will anyway. This sounds like something MMoore would have directed...

Nita
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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There already is a thread on this subject and may I add, we can all rent DVDs about anything we want and anyone can make one as well. Beleive what you want, you will anyway. This sounds like something MMoore would have directed...

Nita
Actually, Michael Moore is "in your face" journalism and edits things regularly, plus has a political agenda which is typically liberal. This movie was about educating folks on how food is transitioned from factory to plate. It's only the RINOs who haven't watched the film who think this is some sort of socialist conspiracy against corporate interests. Of course you haven't seen it either, which puts you at a great disadvantage in this debate.
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:39 AM
 
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Proof, or is this tinfoilhattery? Cite or it didn't happen.

Hey, I'm not the one pushing the propaganda video about evil corporations like ADM and Monsanto creating GE and GM foods that cause flipper babies and man boobs.

There's money involved to be sure. The front groups are always a smoke screen.
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:49 AM
 
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Actually, Michael Moore is "in your face" journalism and edits things regularly, plus has a political agenda which is typically liberal. This movie was about educating folks on how food is transitioned from factory to plate. It's only the RINOs who haven't watched the film who think this is some sort of socialist conspiracy against corporate interests. Of course you haven't seen it either, which puts you at a great disadvantage in this debate.


Here's a list of organizations with whom they are in bed. Looks like a bunch of tree-hugger elitists.

Official Food, Inc. Movie Site - Hungry For Change? - Alliances

I remember back in the early nineties a rumor was going around that canned tuna was full of rat droppings and hair. Of course I realized, after getting completely grossed out, that it was simply a lie spread by the Dolphin people. I trust nothing these people have to say.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:35 AM
 
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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This film sounds like a commercial for the Organic Food Industry and those Alice Waters types out there that seek to demonize those that aren't willing to shell out $5.00 a pop for an Apple..

While I do agree with eating healthier and NOT allowing chemicals into our foods, I believe that this whole "Buy Local Organic" is an elitist movement.. Maybe an effort should be made to make healthier foods less expensive and more accessible to working class and poor families.. Instead though, it seems that many leaders in the "Anti-Big Food Movement" are proposing adding taxes to food items that are deemed "Bad" and "Unnecessary", for example: The movement to tax sodas and carbonated soft drinks.. While soda and other such items may not be the most healthy choices, sticking big government into people's refrigerators and kitchen cupboards in order to strong arm them into making better choices reaks of totalitarianism..

Affordability combined with education will allow more people to make better choices.. That said, it comes down to CHOICE..

I've seen too many people in the Enviornmentalist/Pro-Organic movement that come across like religious fundamentalists.

You are totally mistaken.
Considering your geographic location, I am completely surprised as well.
The number of farms that surround our area are astonishing. We are so very lucky to live in this agriculturally blessed area.
The opportunities here for getting to know your neighbors/farmers/ranchers/growers are more abundant than almost anywhere else in this entire country.

As for the affordability + education point you made, you owe it to yourself to learn more about our local agriculture folks. You will readily find that the affordability is there.
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