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Old 11-10-2009, 09:18 AM
 
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Similar numbers in Virginia, even though a lackluster candidate and campaign by the Democrats helped turn out an electorate that had voted 51-43 for McCain a year ago. 56% said Obama was not factor, 24 percent said their vote was meant to express opposition to him, and 17 percent said it was to support him. Perhaps even more telling was that both those calling themselves Liberals and Conservatives went for the expected candidate by margins of 91-9, but the vaunted Moderates in the middle (42% of all those who voted) who were supposedly doing all this shifting to the right, went for the Democratic candidate by 53-47. The election in Virginia turned on the fact that Conservatives, desperate for some sort of win somewhere, were more motivated to get to the polls than Liberals, who were mostly somewhere between uninspired and turned off by the Democratic candidate and his campaign.
Yeah, I for one was never quite sure what the heck Deeds was doing in the race. Some speculate that Republican participation in the open primary is what made him the Democrat candidate, but I don't think I've seen that proven anywhere...

Deeds' campaign had zero direction or message.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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Yeah, I for one was never quite sure what the heck Deeds was doing in the race. Some speculate that Republican participation in the open primary is what made him the Democrat candidate, but I don't think I've seen that proven anywhere...

Deeds' campaign had zero direction or message.

Corzine should have seen the writing on the wall a long time ago. His approval rating looked like Bush's towards the end. History has shown here in NJ that voters will forgo the polls to keep from giving their vote to the opposite party (ignorance IMO). But then bytch gripe and moan when they do not agree with the candidate that won.

Surprisingly Christie won districts of NJ that were historically Democrat, mainly due to low voter turnout.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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Give it up cowboy. A recent Democratic study concluded that the nationwide protests are all about Big Government and the perception that Obama and Congress are steering the country away from its principles and its roots, not about race. Perhaps they don't tell you that in The Oklahoman or Tulsa World. Expand your horizons a bit. It's quite liberating.
Tea baggers hardly represent the majority of Americans. They are a bunch of bitter losers. As far as Obama's job approval, a majority of Americans approve of his job performance. He has a 53% approval on Gallup and a 51.5% approval on Realclearpolitics. Those who disapprove are at 42 %. Last time I checked 42% was less than a majority of 50+%
It's also funny you assume I get my news from the conservative Daily Oklahoman or the Tulsa World. The Daily Oklahoman is owned by the very conservative Gaylord Family.

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Old 11-10-2009, 10:03 AM
 
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Faint hopes

after more then 30 years of conservatism in the USA-
it seems silly they are 'surging again' after 1 year of Obama
the GOP offers nothing to solve the nations problems, except more of the same solutions that have gotten us into this mess.

You may begin to see the GOP really emerge again in about 20 years, once they shed their racist, white power, homophobic, anti family, anti science dogma.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:19 AM
 
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That has worked to our advantage as well. There is NO national GOP figure who is clearly the leader of the party, although the dems/libs have tried it with RUsh and a few others.

No, the uprising of the citizens, the sliding in the polls for obama and his obamacare boondoggle have come from a genuine grassroots anger over government spending and taxation. Include in the the swing back to the republicans of the all important Independents, who went for the (R)'s in NJ and VA overwhelmingly.

There is really no one, other than the American people, for obama and the Left to target. They tried to do it with the TH protesters - epic fail.

They tried to do it with Fox - epic fail. With Rush - epic fail.

I will repeat the same thing you just said:



".....there was NO Republican who could "unify" their party ! LOL!""

What a great party ...NO strong leader....and they want to win the presidency????
LOL! They have to rely on how bad someone else is perceived to be to get elected???
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Gone
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As an Independent I can tell you that the Republican actions this year have driven me away from them, maybe for ever. In the past I have voted for both Dems, and Republican candidates for Congress, and 3rd party for president, but I don't think I can pull for Republicans again. I probably won't pull for Dems either.
I agree 100% Finn. As an Indpendent, I see the Republican Party as in disarray, they have few ideas and few leaders and they refuse to dump the far right and neo-conservatives from their Party. Until they reform I will not be voting for a Neo-republican to go to Washington. As for the claim that Indes are flocking to the Repubs, I do not know even 1 Inde that thinks that way, sounds like just more BS to me. I love it when they say people in America are conservative on average and jump to the conclusion that Americans consider the Repubs conservatives, sorry folks but Dubya and a Repub Congress but an end to that line of thinking. Threads such as this always make me wonder if some people think that if they say something often enough it will somehow become truth, delusional thinking.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I will repeat the same thing you just said:



".....there was NO Republican who could "unify" their party ! LOL!""

What a great party ...NO strong leader....and they want to win the presidency????
LOL! They have to rely on how bad someone else is perceived to be to get elected???
I have no problem at all with this. Much better to have obama attack your average citizens than a specific GOP leader. Unfortunately for him, that makes his behavior seem all the more petty and vindictive.

He has done what no other figure could do in just 10 short months. He and his radical agenda have given us two huge victories in blue states.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I'm a disgruntled Republican too. It seems the million or so who have dumped the GOP are more militant about it being taken over by the Limburger Cult than liberals are
Another BS call.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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I have no problem at all with this. Much better to have obama attack your average citizens than a specific GOP leader. Unfortunately for him, that makes his behavior seem all the more petty and vindictive.

He has done what no other figure could do in just 10 short months. He and his radical agenda have given us two huge victories in blue states.

You still trying this little farce? Obama had NOTHING at all to do with NJ outcome, NOTHING...Don't let the facts get in your way of course.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Similar numbers in Virginia, even though a lackluster candidate and campaign by the Democrats helped turn out an electorate that had voted 51-43 for McCain a year ago.
Huh? Obama won Virginia last year.
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