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Old 11-09-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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lol..and Repbulicans expect people to believe that race isnt a driving factor in their protest of this President.
Exactly..."I don't have an issue with the President's race...I'm just carrying a sign with a racial slur on it because it's Tuesday. "
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Tea baggers, with their attitude, have no credibility and are in fact hurting credibility of tea party. Just like...
- "government is evil/bad and can't do anything right" folks who keep asking to be the government
- "mainstream media is bad" and we're the most popular (but, somehow, not mainstream media) outlet.
- and more recently, I'm hearing about "grass roots organizing" from same folks who have been typically the slaves of everything trickle down (much less detest "organizers" as recent history proves). Oh, and these grass roots events are being mostly sponsored by corporations and their shills.

Over two centuries ago, tea party was to have a socialistic institution called the government and anti-corporatist. Now, it is paid for by corporations and anti-government.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:03 PM
 
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On Saturday before the vote on the health care bill Obama met with the entire Dem Caucus in the House to urge them to support the pending health care bill. In his remarks to the legislators he called those opposed to the bill "teabag, anti-government" types. So he de-legtitimized almost 50% of the House of Representatives and (by some polling) more than 50% of the American people. Apart from the implied obscenity and the callous arrogance of this man one has to wonder about his political acumen. Does he honestly think that the American people will ignore his slur in the next elections?


Comming from someone who ignores 'WE THE PEOPLE " and the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION that he suppossibly studied in the university he ' supposibly ' attended .

Nobody knows for sure since he has spent almost $2,000000 thats TWO MILLION so far to hide all his scholl transcripts, visas, legal birth certificates ,passports and anything else that lets us know who he is . Whats the big secret Obama ? What are you hiding that all other presidents in our history have on record ?
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:05 PM
 
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Tea baggers, with their attitude, have no credibility and are in fact hurting credibility of tea party. Just like...
- "government is evil/bad and can't do anything right" folks who keep asking to be the government
- "mainstream media is bad" and we're the most popular (but, somehow, not mainstream media) outlet.
- and more recently, I'm hearing about "grass roots organizing" from same folks who have been typically the slaves of everything trickle down (much less detest "organizers" as recent history proves).

Maybe they would have more credibility if they protested like the left wingers and trashed everything, destroyed property, and were violent. I guess the lack of tear gas and a large police force present also throws the left wingers off.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:07 PM
 
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Exactly..."I don't have an issue with the President's race...I'm just carrying a sign with a racial slur on it because it's Tuesday. "
lmao...thats what it amounts to. Ill admit it: so far, there are only a couple of the man's legislative proposals that I have agreed with...but as you said a few posts ago, we have got people marching and protesting President Obama's "policies" with signs targeting his race, his nationality, or his citizenship.

And then, how about those poltroons that are the so called "leaders"/organizers of the protests who are too cowardly to confirm their beliefs either way. They dont denounce the bigotry targeted at President Obama, yet they are too afraid to openly admit the bigotry that they truly embody.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:09 PM
 
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Thanks for proving my previous post Ferd.
I didnt prove anything.

I just pointed out that a person willing to make such a comment is a pervert.

You made the comment.

you dont have to agree with those who protest but it is a perverted sexual attack that is meant to demean those you disagree with.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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lmao...thats what it amounts to. Ill admit it: so far, there are only a couple of the man's legislative proposals that I have agreed with...but as you said a few posts ago, we have got people marching and protesting President Obama's "policies" with signs targeting his race, his nationality, or his citizenship.

And then, how about those poltroons that are the so called "leaders"/organizers of the protests who are too cowardly to confirm their beliefs either way. They dont denounce the bigotry targeted at President Obama, yet they are too afraid to openly admit the bigotry that they truly embody.

Yeah, it would be great if while they're out their encouraging people to protest they also encourage them to protest the issues. It just makes you look like a crazy nut job when you're protesting an issue and the person standing next to you has a T-shirt that says "Show us the Birth Certificate, Hussein!"

It'd be great if they would just call out those people and say "that is not why we're here"
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Im glad he told the Dems to ignore them. There is no point in continuing to try to work with some crazed group of conspiracy theorists. Regardless of what the guy does there will always be some group of sheep who have huddled together until they have whipped each other into a fomenting frenzy and begin their predictable barking into cameras/microphones about "Obama's big govt./Socialist conspiracy" or whatever. You cant get anything accomplished listening to those folks.
So, 52% of Americans are now "conspiracy theorists"?

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Over the weekend, Democratic leaders spoke of an historic moment as health care reform legislation passed the House of Representatives. But that legislative victory failed to significantly move public opinion.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 45% now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. Most (52%) remain opposed.

Only 25% Strongly Support the plan while 42% are Strongly Opposed.

Support for the plan has remained essentially unchanged for months. Last week, it was supported by 42% and two weeks ago support was at 45%. It has generally stayed between 41% and 46% since July, and support has bounced above that level only in the wake of nationally televised appeals by the president.

As has been the case for months, Democrats favor the plan while Republicans and voters not affiliated with either major party are opposed. The latest numbers show support from 81% of those in the president’s party. The plan is opposed by 90% of Republicans and 58% of unaffiliated voters.

Rasmussen Reports continues to track public opinion on the health care plan on a weekly basis.
Health Care Reform - Rasmussen Reports™

Oh and by the way...you're in dubious company with the other 12% of people polled who believe opposition to this bill is rooted in racism.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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Unfortunately, this goes for both sides. I am not part of the teabaggers thus my views are not based on supporting them, but I think Obama has done more to split the country than any President in quite awhile.

Bush cetainly was not the best or strongest President in recent history, but one thing he wasn't: He wasn't an elitest or an arrogant human like Obama.

Nita
I don't think Obama has done very much at all to split the country. I think a lot of very unhappy people are doing everything they can to exploit this split though. And while I would never say that even the majority of people who are unhappy with our President are racists, I think that a significant minority are quite outspoken in their disdain for Obama, and this is quite sad.

I can certainly recall some things that Bush said and did that struck me as rather elitist, and certainly arrogant. His signing statements were redolent with arrogance.

I wish that Obama would take more advisors and input from the Midwestern region of this country, and that such advice and information would give him a more balanced perspective than what he's getting from the East Coast network he tends to favor, but it's not exactly like any of the Presidents we've had in the past century have strayed far from the East Coast influence peddlers.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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lol..and Repbulicans expect people to believe that race isnt a driving factor in their protest of this President.
that comment was made by an extremist and does not represent the feelings of the party, anymore than some obvious extreme liberals represent all democrats..

Nita
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