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Old 11-10-2009, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Come one Church you seriously cannot suggest that Hansen is even close to being sane.

much less an objective scientist.
Duh, just because a scientist is an active climate change protester who gets arrested doesn't mean he's not objective. Just like how an MD who protests abortions is also objective about the topic. Besides, he has a Ph. D. and is published, so don't you DARE question his objectivity!
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Duh, just because a scientist is an active climate change protester who gets arrested doesn't mean he's not objective. Just like how an MD who protests abortions is also objective about the topic. Besides, he has a Ph. D. and is published, so don't you DARE question his objectivity!
I'm sure it will shake Dr. Hansen to the core to know that some bloggers on C-D don't agree with him, but his scientific colleges have no such reservations:
  • elected to the National Academy of Science
  • Dan David Prize for "achievements having an outstanding scientific, technological, cultural or social impact on our world"
  • Heinz Award in the Environment
  • AAAS Award for Scientific Freedom and Responsibility
  • Carl-Gustaf Rossby Research Medal from AMS
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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In south Florida we had the hottest October ever. The greater the difference in temps from the tropics to the temperate region means a fun hurricane season ahead!!
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'm sure it will shake Dr. Hansen to the core to know that some bloggers on C-D don't agree with him, but his scientific colleges have no such reservations:
  • elected to the National Academy of Science
  • Dan David Prize for "achievements having an outstanding scientific, technological, cultural or social impact on our world"
  • Heinz Award in the Environment
  • AAAS Award for Scientific Freedom and Responsibility
  • Carl-Gustaf Rossby Research Medal from AMS
Like I said, when someone questions a person's objectivity in climate science, they tend to get a list of degrees and awards instead of an actual rebuttal that demonstrates where their objectivity is sound. I'm very pleased that my area of study doesn't hinder one's academic progress if they question the "consensus".
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Like I said, when someone questions a person's objectivity in climate science, they tend to get a list of degrees and awards instead of an actual rebuttal that demonstrates where their objectivity is sound. I'm very pleased that my area of study doesn't hinder one's academic progress if they question the "consensus".
Let me know in 20 years if your dissertation has held up as well as Jim Hansen's.
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Let me know in 20 years if your dissertation has held up as well as Jim Hansen's.
Actually, my advisor has published far more than "Dr." Hansen. Oh, and he's gotten more funding too, maybe because our work actually produces real value to organizations.
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:51 PM
 
Location: here
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are you Moderator cut: languagekidding me. You going to be that freaking ignorant toModerator cut: rude deny global warming? Do people on here have a brain and the capacity to think for themselves?

How many damn scientists does it take to prove this to you? or do you not believe science?


I also guess you think oil will last forever and coal is clean right?
you must be new here, and must not have seen the countless global warming threads started by this poster. I mean, many, many threads started by the same person, almost always with a subject like "it's snowing! bet you global warming people feel like idiots now". If only they realized how ignorant it sounds! I'm betting Tony and/or Claire works for big oil.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:09 PM
 
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you must be new here, and must not have seen the countless global warming threads started by this poster. I mean, many, many threads started by the same person, almost always with a subject like "it's snowing! bet you global warming people feel like idiots now". If only they realized how ignorant it sounds! I'm betting Tony and/or Claire works for big oil.
You can always can count on the OP for a weekly Golbal Warming/Climate Change denial thread that is totally off the wall.

Big oil's big lie

Almost without exception, the scientists who claim to doubt that manmade climate change is taking place fall into two categories: either they are not qualified in the branch of science they are discussing or they have received money from fossil fuel companies. Of all the self-professed climate "sceptics", I have been able to find only one – Dr John Christy of the University of Alabama – who has relevant qualifications and who does not appear to have received fees from lobby groups or thinktanks sponsored by the energy companies. But even he has had to admit that the figures on which he based his claims were the results of "errors in the … data".

The others are the very opposite of sceptics. Many of them are paid to start with a conclusion – that climate change isn't happening or isn't important – then to find data and arguments to support it. In most cases, they cherrypick scientific findings; in a few cases, like the fake scientific paper attached to the celebrated Oregon petition, they make them up altogether. But people who don't understand the difference between a peer-reviewed paper and a pamphlet are taken in. The energy companies' propaganda campaign is amplified by scientific illiterates in the media, such as Melanie Phillips, Christopher Booker, Nigel Lawson, Alexander Cockburn and the television producer (who made Channel 4's documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle) Martin Durkin.

George Monbiot: Prosecuting energy chiefs won't solve global warming | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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are you Moderator cut: languagekidding me. You going to be that freaking ignorant toModerator cut: rude deny global warming? Do people on here have a brain and the capacity to think for themselves?

How many damn scientists does it take to prove this to you? or do you not believe science?


I also guess you think oil will last forever and coal is clean right?
He posts a climate change denial thread a couple times a week, pay him no mind
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:38 PM
 
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In south Florida we had the hottest October ever. The greater the difference in temps from the tropics to the temperate region means a fun hurricane season ahead!!
>>> Hurricane season is nearly over and it was a fun one, fun meaning non existant. Let's hope Florida keeps having more fun hurricane seasons.
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