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Old 11-10-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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Justice Dept. Asked For News Site's Visitor Lists - Taking Liberties - CBS News

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In a case that raises questions about online journalism and privacy rights, the U.S. Department of Justice sent a formal request to an independent news site ordering it to provide details of all reader visits on a certain day.

The grand jury subpoena also required the Philadelphia-based Indymedia.us Web site "not to disclose the existence of this request" unless authorized by the Justice Department, a gag order that presents an unusual quandary for any news organization.
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Still unclear is what criminal investigation U.S. Attorney Morrison was pursuing. Last Friday, a spokeswoman initially promised a response, but Morrison sent e-mail on Monday evening saying: "We have no comment." The Justice Department in Washington, D.C. also declined to respond.
Do you remember all of the outcry over the Patriot Act under George W. Bush?

Will there be the same outcry now?

Of course, the difference is that now the monitoring does not seem to have a purpose, where as with the Patriot Act, the purpose was security for the American People.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:49 AM
 
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Justice Dept. Asked For News Site's Visitor Lists - Taking Liberties - CBS News

Do you remember all of the outcry over the Patriot Act under George W. Bush?

Will there be the same outcry now?

Of course, the difference is that now the monitoring does not seem to have a purpose, where as with the Patriot Act, the purpose was security for the American People.
First you say that it does not SEEM to have a purpose, then you proceed to rail against it as if you somehow magically know that its purpose isn't security for the American people.

I notice you also left out the part that says the subpoena was withdrawn.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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First you say that it does not SEEM to have a purpose, then you proceed to rail against it as if you somehow magically know that its purpose isn't security for the American people.

I notice you also left out the part that says the subpoena was withdrawn.
Thanks for making my point. Do you think there WAS a legitimate purpose for the subpoena IF it was later withdrawn without any explanation?

If the government under Bush pulled something like this, don't you think there would be inquiries and investigations and all sorts of outcry over this?

I guess, when a liberal does it, we don't have to be outraged.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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The subpoena was registered on January 23, 2009, and served on January 30, 2009. It would appear that this action was a carry-forward from the prior administration, particularly since indymedia had been contacted a couple of weeks earlier by the FBI asking for the address at which a subpoena could validly be served...
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:49 PM
 
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Thanks for making my point. Do you think there WAS a legitimate purpose for the subpoena IF it was later withdrawn without any explanation?

If the government under Bush pulled something like this, don't you think there would be inquiries and investigations and all sorts of outcry over this?

I guess, when a liberal does it, we don't have to be outraged.
I think that when a subpoena gets withdrawn in an ongoing investigation, investigators have found another way to get the information they are seeking.
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