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Old 11-11-2009, 11:20 AM
 
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According to NPR, women have been consistently out performing men in terms of high school achievement, college acceptance, and college graduation (women earn about 60% of all bachelors agree). Now the US Commission on Civil Rights is investigating whether colleges are violating Title IX by favoring males in the admissions process.

There is a concern among some colleges that they will become "overwhelmingly female" if favoritism is not used to admit more males. Do do you believe that male favoritism is a discriminatory practice? Is it fair to possibly admit lower achieving males over higher achieving females to keep a college population balanced? Is this just another form a Affirmative Action, which many people disagree with? Also, what can be done to increase male achievement?

Do Colleges Favor Male Applicants? : NPR
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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It certainly won't be very healthy in the future to have even fewer male college graduates, earning less money, and more men -- particularly African-Americans -- imprisoned and institutionalized than at the current astronomical rates.

Three decades of favoritism towards females has brought us to this state. We need to take a serious look at our society and ask oursleves if the revenge fantasies of first wave feminists still need to be entertained at the expense of our social fabric.

All of this is a result of Title IX, not a situation to be exacerbated by it.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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Colleges have promoted diversity for years so why should they stop now?

But, instead of trying to address the core issues they have instead decided to slap a bandaid on at the end.

Pretty much we have a anti-intellectual culture among guys. It's not cool to be good in school, being a starter on the basketball team is important....getting a high ACT score is not.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Good high grades are dropping by the wayside in favor of being PC.

Yeah right..everyone is equal but we'll give preference for this or for that.

Cut all the crap out..go by grades. You want the cream of the crop..then pick the highest grades.
Cut all the extra info from application forms. First initial and last name, address and SS # is all any form needs. Now there is no "discrimination". Order the papers by grades and pick the top however many you want to let in.

That is equal opportunity. You want in then you work your butt off to get good grades.
Then the finanacial aid and all that other crap can come into play..not before.

And people wonder why education in the US is tanking.

I'm an engineer and a girl. Most of my college classes were 99.9% guys and I was the lone girl. This is a guys field for sure, but girls are by no means shut out.
All you have to do is prove you can cut it.

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Old 11-11-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Colleges have promoted diversity for years so why should they stop now?

But, instead of trying to address the core issues they have instead decided to slap a bandaid on at the end.

Pretty much we have a anti-intellectual culture among guys. It's not cool to be good in school, being a starter on the basketball team is important....getting a high ACT score is not.

This is true
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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According to NPR, women have been consistently out performing men in terms of high school achievement, college acceptance, and college graduation (women earn about 60% of all bachelors agree). Now the US Commission on Civil Rights is investigating whether colleges are violating Title IX by favoring males in the admissions process.

There is a concern among some colleges that they will become "overwhelmingly female" ]
So, what's wrong with that? If they are the most qualified, so be it.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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So, what's wrong with that? If they are the most qualified, so be it.
The issue is that colleges only have so many spaces for new applicants, so a result of this favoritism is that less qualified males are possibly taking spots away from more qualified females. It's the same complaint that people have with regard to race.

I agree with Yeledaf that it's not good for the future if there are not enough males prepared for college, but I think interventions need to happen early to improve education standards for men. I think compensating for these issues during that admissions process is too late.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:44 PM
 
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If female are more qaulified then the should be fisrst inline. We need to get wawy from promoting mediarcy like we have for years based on any thing other than qualifcations.We how have too many graduating with worhless degrees with very high debt in student loans.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:49 PM
 
Location: southern california
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let them. they will be the ones with the monster student loans instead of you.
think VE think trade, jr college, think debt free education.
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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let them. they will be the ones with the monster student loans instead of you.
think VE think trade, jr college, think debt free education.
Think chicks paying alimony.

Okay, okay. That's a fantasy.

Won't happen with all female lawyers.
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