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Old 11-12-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I think it's also hilarious when socialist RINO hypocrites whine about not trusting government to meddle in the economy, but it's ok to trust an executive branch member to bypass the requirement of obtaining a warrant to listen in on anyone they wish or go on a data fishing expedition.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Bypassing FISA, NSA supercenters retaining internet data. The government has no Constitutional authority to do such a thing without a warrant. Since you deny these things are happening, may I ask which rock you were born under? It sounds like a beautiful and cozy place with rainbows and lollipops where governments are benign and never intrude on one's civil rights.
I guess you will have to point all this out. I think your BDS has followed you the last year. They do have the authority to do so. [MOD CUT]

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Old 11-12-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I guess you will have to point all this out. I think your BDS has followed you the last year. They do have the authority to do so. [MOD CUT] .
I don't know what a BDS is, and I don't know why it would "follow" me. They do not have Contitutional authority, no matter how much they say they can do it. Show me where in the Constitution it allows the government to do warrantless wiretaps. I'll wait for ya. Rights are granted to Americans by their Creator, not by the government. If you want to kiss the government a** so much, maybe you should move to Russia or Cuba where they will welcome you with open arms.

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Old 11-12-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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I don't know what a BDS is, and I don't know why it would "follow" me. They do not have Contitutional authority, no matter how much they say they can do it. Show me where in the Constitution it allows the government to do warrantless wiretaps. I'll wait for ya. Rights are granted to Americans by their Creator, not by the government. If you want to kiss the government a** so much, maybe you should move to Russia or Cuba where they will welcome you with open arms.
You brought up FISA so maybe you should read it.
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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I read a recent speech by the Dutch legislator who is in constant trouble with Muslims in Europe because he fights them in Holland this morning. He called the US the last man standing in the fight to stop the spread of Islam into the West and once we allow them to have Afghanistan by pulling out Israel is by themselves as the last man standing and they can't do it by themselves.

Do some research about what Muslims are doing in Europe and then tell me about the west infringing on the east. They were accepted because of PC but they came with no intent to assimilate but they intended to take over in the future and have pretty well done so already. Sharia law stands alongside the courts of the UK today because they live in like neighborhoods that Christians need not venture into.

Stop looking at the Muslims as the victims. I am talking about the Muslims who allow the Islamists to control them. They are victims but not from us from their leaders.
Well if they want to reform their nations and religion they have to take initiative. It is not up to the U.S. to send in the cavalry everytime a group appears oppressed.
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:11 PM
 
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From your article...............

"While individual refugee stories are impossible to verify independently because their home villages are now controlled by the Taliban"

Maybe you can splain that instead of whining about America. Oh I'm sure the Afghans would just love the Taliban to take the country back over. Fool.
Oh yeah and are troops getting killed over there is really going to make the islamists see the light right?

Yes our continued occupation is going to change the muslim culture and soon the entire world will be like the peaceful Americans.

This is rediculous.
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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Nopw we need to kill the islamist nuts before they kill us. Pretty simple stuff when you take all the whining and crying from the left out of the equation.
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:14 PM
 
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Why can't we just leave other countries alone? - they would be much more grateful if we just kept our 'help' to ourselves.

"The Taliban often came into the village to ambush convoys, and then almost immediately the foreign airstrikes hit us," said Mr. Rostam, a turbaned 60-year-old who, like many Afghans, uses only one name. "Our children were killed; our crops were destroyed; our homes were damaged," he said. "There was nothing left for us there."

Afghans Flee Their Homes as Fighting Intensifies - WSJ.com




right, it is all our fault
good grief
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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I agree. The US military empire is out of control. We have bases in every corner of the world and the world is sick of it.

It is time to bring home the American troops and actually defend our homeland.

It is time to end the neocon dream of building nations and changing cultures. News for you- it does not work!




military empire????
good grief
our men and women are facing things that we can not even fathom
in our worse nightmare and why? for our freedom
13 of our own were just murdered on our own soil about to deploy to protect us
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:24 PM
 
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right, it is all our fault
good grief
Why yes it is. There's a reason why the world have smirk against Americans. And there's a long long list to prove it. Sometimes when somebody doesn't like you, you should figure out why instead of punching that person in the face.

Among the list are events where US has propped up dictators at the expense of democratically elected leaders, you can be sure we also trained them in torture, espionage, coups, and other fantastic tactics. And some of those events, intervention was behalf of corporate interest.

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Argentina - 1890 - Troops sent to Buenos Aires to protect business interests.

Chile - 1891 - Marines sent to Chile and clashed with nationalist rebels.

Haiti - 1891 - American troops suppress a revolt by Black workers on United States-claimed Navassa Island.

Hawaii - 1893 - Navy sent to Hawaii to overthrow the independent kingdom - Hawaii annexed by the United States.

Nicaragua - 1894 - Troops occupied Bluefields, a city on the Caribbean Sea, for a month.

China - 1894-95 - Navy, Army, and Marines landed during the Sino-Japanese War.

Korea - 1894-96 - Troops kept in Seoul during the war.

Panama - 1895 - Army, Navy, and Marines landed in the port city of Corinto.

China - 1894-1900 - Troops occupied China during the Boxer Rebellion.

Philippines - 1898-1910 - Navy and Army troops landed after the Philippines fell during the Spanish-American War; 600,000 Filipinos were killed.

Cuba - 1898-1902 - Troops seized Cuba in the Spanish-American War; the United States still maintains troops at Guantanamo Bay today.

Puerto Rico - 1898 - present - Troops seized Puerto Rico in the Spanish-American War and still occupy Puerto Rico today.

Nicaragua - 1898 - Marines landed at the port of San Juan del Sur.

Samoa - 1899 - Troops landed as a result over the battle for succession to the throne.

Panama - 1901-14 - Navy supported the revolution when Panama claimed independence from Colombia. American troops have occupied the Canal Zone since 1901 when construction for the canal began.

Honduras - 1903 - Marines landed to intervene during a revolution.

Dominican Rep 1903-04 - Troops landed to protect American interests during a revolution.

Korea - 1904-05 - Marines landed during the Russo-Japanese War.

Cuba - 1906-09 - Troops landed during an election.

Nicaragua - 1907 - Troops landed and a protectorate was set up.

Honduras - 1907 - Marines landed during Honduras’ war with Nicaragua.

Panama - 1908 - Marines sent in during Panama’s election.

Nicaragua - 1910 - Marines landed for a second time in Bluefields and Corinto.

Honduras - 1911 - Troops sent in to protect American interests during Honduras’ civil war.

China - 1911-41 - Navy and troops sent to China during continuous flare-ups.

Cuba - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American interests in Havana.

Panama - 1912 - Marines landed during Panama’s election.

Honduras - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American interests.

Nicaragua - 1912-33 - Troops occupied Nicaragua and fought guerrillas during its 20-year civil war.

Mexico - 1913 - Navy evacuated Americans during revolution.

Dominican Rep 1914 - Navy fought with rebels over Santo Domingo.

Mexico - 1914-18 - Navy and troops sent in to intervene against nationalists.

Haiti - 1914-34 - Troops occupied Haiti after a revolution and occupied Haiti for 19 years.

Dominican Rep 1916-24 - Marines occupied the Dominican Republic for eight years.

Cuba - 1917-33 - Troops landed and occupied Cuba for 16 years; Cuba became an economic protectorate.

World War I - 1917-18 - Navy and Army sent to Europe to fight the Axis powers.

Russia - 1918-22 - Navy and troops sent to eastern Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five landings.

Honduras - 1919 - Marines sent during Honduras’ national elections.

Guatemala - 1920 - Troops occupied Guatemala for two weeks during a union strike.

Turkey - 1922 - Troops fought nationalists in Smyrna.

China - 1922-27 - Navy and Army troops deployed during a nationalist revolt.

Honduras - 1924-25 - Troops landed twice during a national election.

Panama - 1925 - Troops sent in to put down a general strike.

China - 1927-34 - Marines sent in and stationed for seven years throughout China.

El Salvador - 1932 - Naval warships deployed during the FMLN revolt under Marti.

World War II - 1941-45 - Military fought the Axis powers: Japan, Germany, and Italy.

Yugoslavia - 1946 - Navy deployed off the coast of Yugoslavia in response to the downing of an American plane.

Uruguay - 1947 - Bombers deployed as a show of military force.

Greece - 1947-49 - United States operations insured a victory for the far right in national “elections.”

Germany - 1948 - Military deployed in response to the Berlin blockade; the Berlin airlift lasts 444 days.

Philippines - 1948-54 - The CIA directed a civil war against the Filipino Huk revolt.

Puerto Rico - 1950 - Military helped crush an independence rebellion in Ponce.

Korean War - 1951-53 - Military sent in during the war.

Iran - 1953 - The CIA orchestrated the overthrow of democratically elected Mossadegh and restored the Shah to power.

Vietnam - 1954 - The United States offered weapons to the French in the battle against Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh.

Guatemala - 1954 - The CIA overthrew the democratically elected Arbenz and placed Colonel Armas in power.

Egypt - 1956 - Marines deployed to evacuate foreigners after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.

Lebanon - 1958 - Navy supported an Army occupation of Lebanon during its civil war.

Panama - 1958 - Troops landed after Panamanians demonstrations threatened the Canal Zone.

Vietnam - 1950s-75 - Vietnam War.

Cuba - 1961 - The CIA-directed Bay of Pigs invasions failed to overthrow the Castro government.

Cuba - 1962 - The Navy quarantines Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Laos - 1962 - Military occupied Laos during its civil war against the Pathet Lao guerrillas.

Panama - 1964 - Troops sent in and Panamanians shot while protesting the United States presence in the Canal Zone.

Indonesia - 1965 - The CIA orchestrated a military coup.

Dominican Rep- 1965-66 - Troops deployed during a national election.

Guatemala - 1966-67 - Green Berets sent in.

Cambodia - 1969-75 - Military sent in after the Vietnam War expanded into Cambodia.

Oman - 1970 - Marines landed to direct a possible invasion into Iran.

Laos - 1971-75 - Americans carpet-bomb the countryside during Laos’ civil war.

Chile - 1973 - The CIA orchestrated a coup, killing President Allende who had been popularly elected. The CIA helped to establish a military regime under General Pinochet.

Cambodia - 1975 - Twenty-eight Americans killed in an effort to retrieve the crew of the Mayaquez, which had been seized.

Angola - 1976-92 - The CIA backed South African rebels fighting against Marxist Angola.

Iran - 1980 - Americans aborted a rescue attempt to liberate 52 hostages seized in the Teheran embassy.

Libya - 1981 - American fighters shoot down two Libyan fighters.

El Salvador - 1981-92 - The CIA, troops, and advisers aid in El Salvador’s war against the FMLN.

Nicaragua - 1981-90 - The CIA and NSC directed the Contra War against the Sandinistas.

Lebanon - 1982-84 - Marines occupied Beirut during Lebanon’s civil war; 241 were killed in the American barracks and Reagan “redeployed” the troops to the Mediterranean.

Honduras - 1983-89 - Troops sent in to build bases near the Honduran border.

Grenada - 1983-84 - American invasion overthrew the Maurice Bishop government.

Iran - 1984 - American fighters shot down two Iranian planes over the Persian Gulf.

Libya - 1986 - American fighters hit targets in and around the capital city of Tripoli.

Bolivia - 1986 - The Army assisted government troops on raids of cocaine areas.

Iran - 1987-88 - The United States intervened on the side of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.

Libya - 1989 - Navy shot down two more Libyan jets.

Virgin Islands - 1989 - Troops landed during unrest among Virgin Island peoples.

Philippines - 1989 - Air Force provided air cover for government during coup.

Panama - 1989-90 - 27,000 Americans landed in overthrow of President Noriega; over 2,000 Panama civilians were killed.

Liberia - 1990 - Troops entered Liberia to evacuate foreigners during civil war.

Saudi Arabia - 1990-91 - American troops sent to Saudi Arabia, which was a staging area in the war against Iraq.

Kuwait - 1991 - Troops sent into Kuwait to turn back Saddam Hussein.

Somalia - 1992-94 - Troops occupied Somalia during civil war.

Bosnia - 1993-95 - Air Force jets bombed “no-fly zone” during civil war in Yugoslavia.

Haiti - 1994-96 - American troops and Navy provided a blockade against Haiti’s military government. The CIA restored Aristide to power.

Zaire - 1996-97 - Marines sent into Rwanda Hutus’ refugee camps in the area where the Congo revolution began.

Albania - 1997 - Troops deployed during evacuation of foreigners.

Sudan - 1998 - American missiles destroyed a pharmaceutical complex where alleged nerve gas components were manufactured.

Afghanistan - 1998 - Missiles launched towards alleged Afghan terrorist training camps.

Yugoslavia - 1999 - Bombings and missile attacks Carried out by the United States in conjunction with NATO in the 11 week war against Milosevic.

Iraq - 1998-2001 - Missiles launched into Baghdad and other large Iraq cities for four days. American jets enforced “no-fly zone” and continued to hit Iraqi targets since December 1998.
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military empire????
good grief
our men and women are facing things that we can not even fathom
in our worse nightmare and why? for our freedom
13 of our own were just murdered on our own soil about to deploy to protect us


Sounds like an Empire alright.

Nobody is fighting for your freedom, stop believing in nonsense, they're fighting for your desire to be wasteful so you can drive your cars and buy trinkets.
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