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Old 11-12-2009, 01:27 PM
 
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In an attempt to regain the millions in funding it lost in the wake of a hidden-camera scandal, ACORN is suing the federal government over congressional legislation that cut off funding to the community organizing group.

ACORN Sues Over 'Unconstitutional' Funding Cuts By Congress - FOXNews.com


If Acorn is sueing...doesn't that mean they also are vonerable to having to asnwer some question.....
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:44 PM
 
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In an attempt to regain the millions in funding it lost in the wake of a hidden-camera scandal, ACORN is suing the federal government over congressional legislation that cut off funding to the community organizing group.

ACORN Sues Over 'Unconstitutional' Funding Cuts By Congress - FOXNews.com


If Acorn is sueing...doesn't that mean they also are vonerable to having to asnwer some question.....
Don't worry our congress full of Trial lawyers will have some sympathy and cave.
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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While I really don't care if ACORN loses it's funding, this doesn't sound like a rediculous argument:

The suit charges Congress with violating the Constitution when it passed legislation in September that specifically targeted ACORN to lose federal housing, education and transportation funds.
That qualifies the legislation as bills of attainder, according to the Center for Constitutional Rights, which filed the suit on behalf of ACORN. A bill of attainder punishes a person or group without the benefit of a trial, and is illegal under Article 1 of the Constitution.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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In this case, ACORN is correct. Removing funding from one organization "targeted" is indeed illegal. see case Clinton vs NYC for relevant case law.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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In an attempt to regain the millions in funding it lost in the wake of a hidden-camera scandal, ACORN is suing the federal government over congressional legislation that cut off funding to the community organizing group.

ACORN Sues Over 'Unconstitutional' Funding Cuts By Congress - FOXNews.com


If Acorn is sueing...doesn't that mean they also are vonerable to having to asnwer some question.....

No. They don't need to ask any questions about their alleged crimes because that is not what is at issue in this case.


One of two things will happen. They will find that Congress violated the Constitution by passing a bill of attainder or they may find that Congress wrote the legislation broadly enough to pass muster.

If they rule it legal then the Obama Adminsitration will either not enforce the law altogether, or will illegally only apply the law to ACORN.

The law is written so broadly that most military contractors fall under it's scope.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:16 PM
 
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Good on them! I hope for one of two outcomes:

1. They win and get their funding back.

2. They lose and we get to start stripping funding from all the war contractors and other scum corporations who are guilty of criminal acts. Here's a list.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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Shouldn't we then start defunding KBR, Haliburton, Blackwater, Lockheed Martin, and myriad of other organizations due to scandals (everything from prostitution to rape)? I'm not a lawyer so I may be completely wrong, but isn't it illegal to have this double standard on the sole basis politics? Also their (ACORN's) argument does make sense...
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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Good on them! I hope for one of two outcomes:

1. They win and get their funding back.

2. They lose and we get to start stripping funding from all the war contractors and other scum corporations who are guilty of criminal acts. Here's a list.
why would you even hope for outcome #1?
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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Ironic, isn't it? If this case goes to trial, taxpayer money will be funding both sides.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:26 PM
 
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Shouldn't we then start defunding KBR, Haliburton, Blackwater, Lockheed Martin, and myriad of other organizations due to scandals (everything from prostitution to rape)? I'm not a lawyer so I may be completely wrong, but isn't it illegal to have this double standard on the sole basis politics? Also their (ACORN's) argument does make sense...
Correct. when the revolt commences these items will be dealt with
expeditiously.
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