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[quote=HappyTexan;11630729]What do we do..put the war on hold ?
Exactly. Our republic would be so much better off. The longer we put this war (which one are you referring to, it's hard to keep track since Congress abrogated it's responsibility--the war on drugs, war on terror, the undeclared wars in Afghanistan or Iraq, the de facto wars we are waging in Pakistan... which one should we put on hold? How about the one on the American people, the war being waged with their tax dollars, that covers Israeli armaments as well as payments to the thugs in Iraq who used to attack us--wouldn't it be nice to put those payments on hold? But war doesn't work that way and if you weren't so busy being a Happy Texan, and paid a little more attention to what is actually required of the men and women serving our country, you might cease with your unserving comments to put the war on hold.
Exactly. Our republic would be so much better off. The longer we put this war (which one are you referring to, it's hard to keep track since Congress abrogated it's responsibility--the war on drugs, war on terror, the undeclared wars in Afghanistan or Iraq, the de facto wars we are waging in Pakistan... which one should we put on hold? How about the one on the American people, the war being waged with their tax dollars, that covers Israeli armaments as well as payments to the thugs in Iraq who used to attack us--wouldn't it be nice to put those payments on hold? But war doesn't work that way and if you weren't so busy being a Happy Texan, and paid a little more attention to what is actually required of the men and women serving our country, you might cease with your unserving comments to put the war on hold.
8 years US Coast Guard..under DoT in peacetime, DoD in wartime.
She is in a tough situation but she needs to fulfill her obligations.
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Originally Posted by love.doll
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at least she was still willing to serve in the army after having her baby as a single parent but...my child comes 1st.
^ This is incorrect. According to the website:
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Specialist Alexis Hutchinson of Oakland, CA is the single mother of an 11-month old boy, Kamani. Currently she is confined to Hunter Army Airfield near Savannah, Georgia, where she has been posted since February 2008
The baby was born around December of 2008. She has been posted at the army airfield since February 2008. Even with a margin of a couple months in her favor, I'd say the baby was probably conceived when she was already in the Army.
Bottom line: she should have planned better for the future.
the war wasnt & still hasnt been put on hold because of this situation.
Growing up at the peak of radical feminism in the early seventies when women were running around burning their bras and shaving their heads, at a time when school kids like myself were taught to refer to some female faculty as "Ms." and others "Miss." or "Mrs. without really understanding why, I was instructed to acknowledge the equal ability of females in "all" things. That was a silly and overly simplistic view of the sexes that disregarded the character of the individual as the most important factor to be considered when evaluating ability. For that reason, it warms my heart to see true feminists calling this person out and not making excuses for her failure to deploy as ordered.
if a soldier who needs more time to find care for her son so she can serve our country more effectively without worrying about a complete stranger watching over her child 24/7...she should get it.
being a mother comes 1st before everything but obviously she was willing to be a mother & a soldier as long as her son was being taken care of. are yall even reading the same articles as me?
whatever happened to supporting the troops? protecting your family? fighting for your rights? oh i guess it only applies to a certain group of people.
Then she shouldn't have joined.
I would suggest that you not join the military then.
There's a contract that you sign; you are bound to it.
In the all volunteer military, you're a soldier first.
She knew at least 6 months in advance of her deployment.
How much time do you want to give her? Forever?
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Originally Posted by love.doll
i repeat...i think it was wrong for the military to revoke her extension to find someone to watch her child. this isn't a counterpoint, this is my opinion & i'm sticking to it until some new information comes out justifying the army's decision to cancel her extension so abruptly.
from what i've read so far...all she's asking for more time to find someone she trusts to watch after her child...i think this is a reasonable request.
i'm looking forward to more info on this case & i hope more parents speak their mind when it comes to being a single parent in the military.
Since you know nothing of the military, why are you even commenting.
She was required to have a plan in place, in advance.
Missing deployment is being AWOL.
Troop movements are a logistic nightmare to begin with without dealing with AWOL soldiers.
The military can cancel leave at any time for any reason.
Don't like military rules, then don't enlist.
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Originally Posted by love.doll
the war wasnt & still hasnt been put on hold because of this situation.
You have no idea how many resources are used for this type of behavior.
Manpower and money cost the taxpayer.
Why don't you send the Army a check to cover the costs?
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Originally Posted by momonkey
Ultra-liberal Chielgirl said what?
You get a rep my friend!
Whoa!
Did the skies just part?
Mo, I'm all for personal responsibility.
On a personal note, by the responses, it looks like we have people that still respect oaths and commitments. That's a good sign.
Yeah, they just don't give a s*** about babies once they're out of a womb.
Don't get me wrong, the mom should have a plan in place, but I've heard other stories of families where the parents are both in the military and get deployed (and they do it without putting up a fuss). What do they do for kids? NOTHING? This is gonna screw a lot of them up and these our the kids we are expecting to figure out how to fix all our mistakes that we don't have the brains or courage to fix.
Again, I agree that the mom should be punished, but no one gives a crap about this newborn because its not inside a uterus.
Who knows........she may be welcoming the opportunity to get out(counting on dishonorable discharge rather than jail)
Maybe couldn't find a suitable caretaker, knowing the result.
More than one way to skin a cat (or correct your own mistakes)
Regardless of the whole story and motives ( or lack of) , what's happening is appropriate.
No, sorry but this is wrong. The reason for her court martial is ridicules. She had a family plan and it fell through. It is not her fault. She was going to have time to look for a substitute but as usual our government/military is so pulled away from what it means to be a human that they take back the time they said she would have.
The Child is now paid to suffer because our f*** up military is desperate to build up dead bodies to continue this fight.
We are no longer needed in those countries. We need to pull our forces out and protect our own boarders. If the other countries want to fight us then they can bring the fight to us. Why do we think we are needed to police the world? I say if those third world countries want to screw themselves over and not stand up for themselves then let them die.
And now because A Female soldier cant find a baby sitter she is going to go to jail and lose everything she worked hard for. Yeah, that makes lots of people fans of the military and want to serve our country.
Odd that the government can cancel a contract at anytime, the person who signed it cannot.
You all say she knew this could happen...well no crap. That is why she had the Family plan. However, her mother could not hold to the family plan. I am sure the military does not require you to have a back up and who would ever think you would need one. She knew she could get deployed, she knew she would have to leave her son with someone. But I am positive that she didnt know the government that she puts her life on the line for would turn their back on her. She has done nothing wrong. Now, she will have a criminal record, dishonerable discharge, probably lose her son for good and she will never be able to find a job. Yeah, thats in the brocher when you sign up right? right next to the slavery clause?
Sorry, but oath and commitments to this country are bull**** as of...when Clinton took office. This country is going in the hole. This country will see a war on its own soil...sadly it will not be from outside invaders...it will be a civil war. We can all see it, we all feel it, it is coming probably within most of our lifetimes. It is a sad day...when we can no longer look to our leader that we elect to protect us. It is a sad day, when the citizens of the USA turn their back on one of their own.
All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. This woman, has done nothing wrong. The military is the bad guy on this one as it often is.
I almost joined...I was in the MEPS office about to swear in when I decided that this country will never honer what it has promised me. It will screw me over the first chance it gets...and I walked away. My recruiter tryed to stop me but I told him that would be unwise. If he touched me I would be in my rights to defend myself. He fallowed me out of the building and tried to stop me again. I got on the bus and went home. This ***hole showed up at my house several times and even called me atleast once a day, threatening me and harassing me. I warned him to stop several times and he never listened. That is when I got a laywer, I had several of the phone conversations with the recruiter recorded where I told him to leave me alone.
I swore no oath and will never swear an oath to such a country. I am proud to be an American, just not a modern American. I stand for what this country once stood for. Where our citizens where more than fresh bodies to send to the slaughtering house. Where freedom actually meant freedom.
She was required to have a plan in place, in advance.
Missing deployment is being AWOL.
[MOD CUT/personal attack] SHE DID HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE...CANT YOU READ?
She was not AWOL. The military said they would give her more time...what do you expect her to do, drop her kid off on a church doorsteps?
She had a plan and at the last moment the plan fell through. Either learn to read or dont comment. Knowing the rules of our military are not needed in this case. Obviously the military can refuse to honor their word but a soldier cannot. Sorry, but this woman is in the right. She should be allowed to find trustworthy suitable childcare for her son. If you dont get that...then I pray you never have a child. When you have a child...no matter what contracts you have signed...THE CHILD COMES FIRST.
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