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Old 11-16-2009, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Just because you're wealthy lawyer doesn't make you conservative. The reason I include lawyers under Democrats is because the single biggest contributor to political campaigns is lawyers and an overwhelming amount of those contributions goes to Democrats.


Lawyers / Law Firms: Long-Term Contribution Trends | OpenSecrets

2008 to Dems: $178,368,663
2008 to Reps: $54,332,611

If you look at any other industry nothing even comes close, you could for example combine every interest in the medical industry and they all wouldn't add up to those amounts.
If you're interested in the preservation of law and order, that's pretty conservative.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:33 AM
 
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What if America was split into two countries: One is run by Democrats. The other is run by Republicans. Neither are allowed immigration from either side, just tourist visas.

Which one would you live in?

(BTW, the Republican nation would be a pure Republic, without Medicare/Medicaid and any other Democratically-driven social programs.)
You are not talking about a Democrat vs. Republican nation, you are talking about a Demcrat vs. Libertarian nation.

In a Republican nation you would have temporary saftey nets for social programs. No permanent welfare unless you have major disabilities.
SS would be there, but the funding would be left alone out of the general budget.
There would be hardly any government employment, all people would mostly be in the private sector.
There would be no unions connected to any government jobs since they are a monopoly.
There would be a balanced budget, lower taxes, reduced ability to sue for anything.
That's for starters.

The libertarian example you call Republican is very extreme and not Republican at all.

In a Democrat controlled you'd have much taken from those that earned it and those that hardly tried to work would be living in homes you paid for next to your own.
You'd have less achievement and as the tax base continued to disolve there would only be one big welfare state with no one left to pay. Spreading the poverty and lack of liberty from sea to sea.
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Great places if you want to get stabbed and robbed.

Anyhow, I do think that the Republicans couldn't live that way and they would cause a war and bully the Democrats and eventually take over their country.
Good way to stereotype, but I'd gladly take all of America's greatest cities versus the suburban big box mart life style
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Good way to stereotype, but I'd gladly take all of America's greatest cities versus the suburban big box mart life style
Do a little research.
Take a look at city councils, county commissioners, and mayors of cities like Detroit, Chicago, SanFran, LA, etc...
You'll find the majority are democrats.
It plays well for them to keep their constituents dependent on them.
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:17 AM
 
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Do a little research.
Take a look at city councils, county commissioners, and mayors of cities like Detroit, Chicago, SanFran, LA, etc...
You'll find the majority are democrats.
It plays well for them to keep their constituents dependent on them.
I know most major cities are heavily Democratic... Which is why I said I would take the major cities... I even listed them in a previous post.

New York City, Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Boston, Chicago, El Paso, Los Angeles, Miami, Houston, Seattle, San Francisco, Austin, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Portland, Baltimore and of course D.C.

Like I said, the liberals can keep these cities and the conservatives can keep big box mart suburbia
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I know most major cities are heavily Democratic... Which is why I said I would take the major cities... I even listed them in a previous post.

New York City, Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Boston, Chicago, El Paso, Los Angeles, Miami, Houston, Seattle, San Francisco, Austin, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Portland, Baltimore and of course D.C.

Like I said, the liberals can keep these cities and the conservatives can keep big box mart suburbia
yep the whiny liberal would controll the city,,and all its dirtiness...and the conservative would controll the liberals water.....your cities get its water from suburbia
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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It would never work. There would be factions within each state, and since a lot of conservative districts are more purple, it would be an ugly looking country lol.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by aqua0 View Post
What if America was split into two countries: One is run by Democrats. The other is run by Republicans. Neither are allowed immigration from either side, just tourist visas.

Which one would you live in?

(BTW, the Republican nation would be a pure Republic, without Medicare/Medicaid and any other Democratically-driven social programs.)
You don't really need to run this experiment nationwide when it is already run citywide. Big inner cities are pretty much devoid of any Conservatives and almost all Republicans. While in the countryside it's the opposite.
And the inner cities are abandoned.

Let's be realistic, there are things most of us don't like about the Republican party but a Democrat party with complete power whose agenda is based on social welfare, universal healthcare, high taxation, high regulation and soft on crime, would pretty much end up as a larger version of what inner cities are - that is a place where no business would really want to start up or stay and with the business gone so goes the jobs.
So I would pick the Republican side - it's a no brainer, I need to support my family more than anything else, just like most people.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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This would probably not work though, as children develop beliefs that are different than their parents. A lot of times places get rich because they had a very free market, low tax and low regulation attitude like California for instance, then the next generation wants to take it more easy and they have the financial luxury and ability to have government fund more education, healthcare, social welfare programs, etc... and an interesting thing happens because some of them start actually believing that it's BECAUSE of that government funding that they are prosperous.

Sweden is another good example of this, they used to be very free market before the 1970's, then they turned to Socialism and started believing that it was because of Socialism they got where they did.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:21 PM
 
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yep the whiny liberal would controll the city,,and all its dirtiness...and the conservative would controll the liberals water.....your cities get its water from suburbia
So when you commute from suburbia to the city for your job we will be sure to tax your commute in all ways possible... A tax for entering city limits, a tax per mile you drive, parking tax, a special sales tax on all items, an elevator use tax, a staircase use tax, a tax per hour you work, a tax when you leave work, a tax when you leave city limits... Obviously only people from Conservative Country will pay these, all locals are exempt from the special taxes you will incur...
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