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Did you not read the article? Women will still get to decide whether or not they want a mammogram, based on the risk.
That is for now...later under the public option it will be the same as world wide under socialist health care...no choice...and just death panels!
The government will weigh if early detection will safe more life's than it cost, otherwise they rather have a people die and cut costs...just if cutting costs will save more, than your life will be in the hand of the government...
This is what I described all the time...maybe some will wake up...
MRI's will be next and only be done in certain cases and expect hardly anything if you over 65...."it is all because of your age and you have to live with that"...mind my words!
That is for now...later under the public option it will be the same as world wide under socialist health care...no choice...and just death panels!
The government will weigh if early detection will safe more life's than it cost, otherwise they rather have a people die and cut costs...just if cutting costs will save more, than your life will be in the hand of the government...
This is what I described all the time...maybe some will wake up...
MRI's will be next and only be done in certain cases and expect hardly anything if you over 65...."it is all because of your age and you have to live with that"...mind my words!
My Father is 88 and in a NHS Hospital. He is now recovering from a severe heart problem and was given every test possible. He had a Cardiac Arrest and was revived 5 times.... they did NOT give up on him because of his age...you are talking absolute garbage
Do you dream these "facts" up?
There are NO death panels in the UK socialised health system. Tests are given to anyone who needs them.
These lies being used in the American press about death panels etc are complete rubbish. There are far more restrictions to treatment in the current American health system than there is in a socialised programme.
Get real here and use facts not fiction.
[/b] My Father is 88 and in a NHS Hospital. He is now recovering from a severe heart problem and was given every test possible. He had a Cardiac Arrest and was revived 5 times.... they did NOT give up on him because of his age...you are talking absolute garbage
Do you dream these "facts" up?
There are NO death panels in the UK socialised health system. Tests are given to anyone who needs them.
These lies being used in the American press about death panels etc are complete rubbish. There are far more restrictions to treatment in the current American health system than there is in a socialised programme.
Get real here and use facts not fiction.
You can't read....if you can't have the mammogram till your 50 or in case you have a severe lumb that a doctor is willing to order it...it is called a death panel too....your life can be in the hands of people who decide if cost cutting is more important that to get a test done.
Btw my mother in law in The Netherlands didn't get all the tests like you father got...she was sick for yrs and even with a blood pressure of 225/115 the doctor let her come and see us....we noticed very quickly something was wrong. First her memory was very bad and she acted strange and talked about certain things that we thought she could have Alzheimer or dementia...When she started to fall frequently and we had a hole in our wall we called 911...she was rushed to the Hospital and over there within 8 hours we were told everything that was wrong with her....due to X-Rays, MRI's and more research by good doctor's!
After weeks of being in the hospital and than again at our home and in and out of the hospital over here again...she was transported to a hospice...but at that point the ins. in The Netherlands thought it was going to cost to much so they send a doctor to pick her up here and take her back on a plane ...we were told things that weren't true otherwise we wouldn't have let her travel back....but to keep the story short....
The Hospital in Holland didn't want to see, read the rapports we got over here from the hospital and they tried to get her to eat a lot to get better and gain wait...something that isn't good for a person who also had pancreatis...only when she all of sudden died within 10 days of being back (the hospital wanted to send her home to live on her own!!!)....they asked us to have an autopsy done since they were shocked how quickly she died...not to us because we had the medical records over here which we had faxed over to the hospital but one doctor admitted that they were not looked into!
The autopsy showed the doctor's over here were right!
We had many calls to her primary physician and the people we trusted who took her many times there and who all stated the same..."they never took her serious and over and over was told she was just fine, and it was because she was getting older"....On my question how her blood pressure could be so high (since the Hospital told us that isn't something that comes up from one day to another)...her doctor stated that for an elderly lady 175/115 is perfectly normal...but according to other doctor's that is doing damage to the heart...which was very large at the time of her autopsy!
Don't tell me socialist health care is good....my father in law died 6 months before her and we were never asked to let him go off life support...they just asked her...who clearly was in no state to know what she was doing, since she was diagnosed with a severe case of Alzheimer and that didn't come up over night! If we could see it within a day of arriving so could any doctor...the doctor in the hospital stated that her part of the brain located in the back above the neck wasn't working at all!
This was very shocking and sad....
For as long as we lived in Holland we never had anything to compare and thought our health care was great, but being over here and having had the chance to compare...we know that this health care might not be perfect but worth keeping in a reformed way!
Read the article. This was a government study that is lining up with international practices (socialized medicine) to save money. This is a money game that will cause people to die. Wake up !! And it will cause the insurance companies now not to cover mammograms for women under the age of 50. Ok. I did all the brain work for some people here who are socialists. It also creates a conflict with the American Cancer Society who still recommends mammograms for women under the age of 50. Where are all the liberal feminists now??? I guess its far more important to agree with Obama than to protect the lives of women.
I am in my early 40's. I personally know three women who had breast cancer detected before their 40's. All are my age and one died when she was 35. It was too far advanced and I sat with her during her last days in Hospice. This is crap. Get your mamograms at age 40. Better to know early either way than to know too late.
I am in my early 40's. I personally know three women who had breast cancer detected before their 40's. All are my age and one died when she was 35. It was too far advanced and I sat with her during her last days in Hospice. This is crap. Get your mamograms at age 40. Better to know early either way than to know too late.
I'm so sorry to hear that...and my last tenant just had breast cancer detected and went through 8 hours of surgery and she is in her 30's....
The same is for a family member of mine who had stage 3a of a pap smear...which could be treated...if it wasn't detected she probably wasn't here anymore...she was 27 when it was detected!
People are stupid This doesn't have anything to do with Pelosi or "OBAMACARE" or the government wanting to kill you. It's actually been in the works for a couple of years now (sorry bentlebee...you didn't actually "predict" anything). And it's kind of embarassing to read comments that people think are clever...over and over and over...about nothing.
People analyze what currently is and see if it's working the way it should. Apparently this isn't. I don't know what to tell you but I don't worry about breast cancer any more than I worry about liver cancer or bone cancer and I'm not being screened for those every year. Why the obsession with breasts? If you have a risk, or find a lump, or just worry because we've been TAUGHT to worry...then by all means get them. Start before 40, start at 20..some women in their 20's get breast cancer too you know. Hell, just start at puberty. Breasts are obviously little death traps I guess.
The obsession with breast cancer is overblown. I'm not saying some women aren't helped by all those early and frequent mamograms, but let's consider the 99% who aren't. That's alot of time, money, energy, pain, and radiation. And nobody is saying you can't have one.
Absolutely agree. It's mostly about the money, and the personal stories of those who've had it early. The #1 killer of women is not breast cancer, it's heart disease. And women don't necessarily show the same symptoms as men. Why are they not educating us on that, instead of raising hysteria about breast cancer?
No, I don't worry about it, either. I am 46, and have had several normal screenings. I'll probably get another next year, supposing that I have either insurance or money at that point.
Let the rationing begin. That's what happens when politics mixes with healthcare.
We're already rationed; it's what happens with profits mix with basic healthcare.
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And it will cause the insurance companies now not to cover mammograms for women under the age of 50. Ok. I did all the brain work for some people here who are socialists. It also creates a conflict with the American Cancer Society who still recommends mammograms for women under the age of 50. Where are all the liberal feminists now??? I guess its far more important to agree with Obama than to protect the lives of women.
