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Old 11-17-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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We need to start holding China accountable for their invasion of Tibet
NOT going to happen.
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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NOT going to happen.
As long as we keep shopping WALMART, they own our souls

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Old 11-17-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Are you kidding? Do you really think this president is going to buck china? Get real. Obama actually snubbed the Dalai Lama when he came to Washington a few weeks ago in deference to the Chinese. Barak Obama is the first President of the United States of America since FDR who is NOT the most powerful man in the world.

Barak is in China to pay respects to his banker. He has his hat in his hand and a man in that position can’t really stand up for justice to the banker now can he?

Yea, the bill from the last 8 years has come due. The idiot frat boy from Texas has billions and billions in interest due from his war games in Iraq and Afghanistan
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
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Right after we hold the US acountable for their invasion of Iraq.
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Maybe China is thinking they should hold us accountable for the invasion of Iraq????
D'oh!!! Someone ought to hold me responsible for reading the whole thread before replying.
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:03 PM
 
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There's no need to hold China accountable for Tibet. China's border included Tibet when the Republic was founded in 1911, WWII conferences reaffirmed these borders as permanent. To say China invaded Tibet is incorrect.

Our misguided view on Tibet is the result of a successful psychological warfare conducted over decades, and Hollywood's romanticization of Asian religions (which is ironic for anti-Christian liberals, the feudal theocratic serfdom of Dalai Lama is praised but Christianity is a no-no).
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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Of course business leaders could care less about China's human rights violations in Tibet, they just care about how much the Chinese work force will add to their bottom line - but our president should hold them to a higher standard in order to win our business - not that Bush ever cared.

"Meanwhile, a senior aide said, following claims Washington had soft-pedalled the dispute to placate China that US President Barack Obama will not specifically mention Tibet in his speech on Asia policy on Saturday,.

"Obama was set to deliver one of his signature speeches encompassing a wide array of political and diplomatic challenges on the second day of his Asian tour in Tokyo, before heading to a regional summit in Singapore.

“He will not mention Tibet, he will of course mention our commitment to the rights and freedoms that we believe all people should have,” said Ben Rhodes, Obama’s national security adviser for strategic communications.

Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader the Dalai Lama in October made his first visit to Washington in 18 years that did not include a meeting with the US president.

Critics of Obama said he avoided an encounter so as not to upset Beijing before his high stakes debut visit to China, which begins on Sunday, and includes talks with China’s President Hu Jintao.

Aides said Obama would raise the issue of Tibet and human rights privately with Hu, and said he looked forward to meeting the Dalai Lama later this year."

Hmmmmmmmmmm.................................... Just what exactly does Tibet have to do with our national interests? Keep in mind that the country that invaded Tibet is essentially now our mortgage banker and is holding all the cards. What do you propose to do when they invade Formosa?
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:16 PM
 
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There's no need to hold China accountable for Tibet. China's border included Tibet when the Republic was founded in 1911, WWII conferences reaffirmed these borders as permanent. To say China invaded Tibet is incorrect.

Our misguided view on Tibet is the result of a successful psychological warfare conducted over decades, and Hollywood's romanticization of Asian religions (which is ironic for anti-Christian liberals, the feudal theocratic serfdom of Dalai Lama is praised but Christianity is a no-no).
China's claim to Tibet is nothing new - and Tibet was a soverign country before China 're-drew' the borders.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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right because it is inhuman to get rid of a brutal dicator who used nerve gas on his own people and killed hundreds of thousands of them and had rape rooms set up to keep the people in line.

It is a terrible human rights violation to invade a nation that was in violation of at least 12 UN resolutions.

right.


thanks for pointing that out


snort.
The nerve gas he bought from us, they were not his 'own' people, they Islamic Fundamentalist ****es from Iran and Kurds in the north, Rumsfeld assured Saddam it was fine to use those weapons against the Iranians, and Israel has far more than 12 UN resolution violations.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:10 PM
 
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China's claim to Tibet is nothing new - and Tibet was a soverign country before China 're-drew' the borders.
Incorrect.

The Qing (Manchu) dynasty before 1911 Republic of China also had claim to Tibet. For those not familiar with Chinese history, China before 1911 was ruled by a minority group called the Manchus.

Tibet wasn't really recognized before Ming Dynasty, the Dalai Lama title didn't exist before Ming Dynasty. The first Dalai Lama was the creation of Ming Dynasty.
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Of course business leaders could care less about China's human rights violations in Tibet, they just care about how much the Chinese work force will add to their bottom line - but our president should hold them to a higher standard in order to win our business - not that Bush ever cared.

"Meanwhile, a senior aide said, following claims Washington had soft-pedalled the dispute to placate China that US President Barack Obama will not specifically mention Tibet in his speech on Asia policy on Saturday,.

"Obama was set to deliver one of his signature speeches encompassing a wide array of political and diplomatic challenges on the second day of his Asian tour in Tokyo, before heading to a regional summit in Singapore.

“He will not mention Tibet, he will of course mention our commitment to the rights and freedoms that we believe all people should have,” said Ben Rhodes, Obama’s national security adviser for strategic communications.

Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader the Dalai Lama in October made his first visit to Washington in 18 years that did not include a meeting with the US president.

Critics of Obama said he avoided an encounter so as not to upset Beijing before his high stakes debut visit to China, which begins on Sunday, and includes talks with China’s President Hu Jintao.

Aides said Obama would raise the issue of Tibet and human rights privately with Hu, and said he looked forward to meeting the Dalai Lama later this year."
Corporate America don't care. There is a buck to be made.
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