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Um newsflash. Tax is already charged at restaurants!!! That was my point. Eating out is a luxury as is the idea of going on a vacation which includes eating out. Lol. And restaurants charge a sales tax on their bills.
Cosmetics are also chrarged a sales tax! Clothes are too for that matter! Who says anything about 20%? no one mentioned any percentages just a tax wih no details. If we are talking that high then I feel it is indeed too high. But charging for cosmetic surgery along the lines we already charge for items is fine with me
I'm suggesting an EXTRA "luxury" tax of say 25% should be charged because these things are unnecessary according to you and are luxuries according to you and those who indulge in these luxuries should be willing to pay extra for healthcare.
There is a HUGE difference between medicine /procedures that are needed for life sustainment and some woman who wants to make her lips look plumper
Actually, according to Obamacare, there's NO difference between the two. The woman who wants to make her lips look plumper will be taxed.
So will the guy he needs a pacemaker (or hip replacement, crutches, wheelchair, etc.). A new 2.5% tax on medical devices. What's the logic behind that?
New Jersey already has a 6% tax on cosmetic procedures. Reports are that it's generated a lot less revenue for the state than was expected, in part, because patients can easily go to New York or Pennsylvania for the same procedures.
Actually, according to Obamacare, there's NO difference between the two. The woman who wants to make her lips look plumper will be taxed.
So will the guy he needs a pacemaker (or hip replacement, crutches, wheelchair, etc.). A new 2.5% tax on medical devices. What's the logic behind that?
What are you talking about? We're talking about a proposal to tax cosmetic procedures. There's nothing in this specific proposal about taxing crutches, wheelchairs, or hip replacements.
I'm talking about the new tax contained in the bill now under debate. 2.5% on medical devices, as a way to help fund reform.
The arguement was made that taxing non-vital procedures was appropriate. I'm simply noting that apparently taxing life-saving devices is considered appropriate as well (according to the bill).
I'm suggesting an EXTRA "luxury" tax of say 25% should be charged because these things are unnecessary according to you and are luxuries according to you and those who indulge in these luxuries should be willing to pay extra for healthcare.
Sounds fair to you, doesn't it?
Nowhere in this thread was an additional luxury tax of that high a percentage mentoned anywhere. And in my previous response to you I cleary state that that percentage is too high.
All that was mentioned is a tax being proposed on elective cosmetic procedures period. Just like there is a tax o. Many of the elective items we purchase. Then you all get your panties in a bunch trying to say that we are going to have to tax this or that and this or that when your arguments are ridiculous as they are already taxed. Non essential items in our economy carry wih it a tax period. None of them are remotely at that 20% Level. If you want to exhaust yourself with your ridiculous overstretcb of an argument go right ahead. That is your headache.
My answer is yes. Cosmetic surgeries should have a sales like tax imposed on it with a few exceptions. And at no more than any other non essentials we tax like cosmetics, restaurant eating out, cars,tv, cell phones and service etc
Well, it's just ridiculous! I think I'm gonna become a republican! Oh, wait! I AM a republican!
Seriously, though, as I said earllier in this thread, I always vote republican primarily because I am staunchly, and I do mean, staunchly pro-life. But economically, if you want to call it that, I have always held some rather strong democratic leanings. (My husband somewhat derisively calls me "a closet democrat.")This issue, however, about just deciding to tax something willy-nilly like cosmetic surgery, or medical devices? has made me really evaluate my political philosophies. I just don't believe communism works and I'm sorry, but this is what this smacks of to me.
Please don't tell me we already have a "luxury tax" and therefore, it's right. Maybe that is wrong as well. Just because it's been taxed in the past and has precedent doesn't make it right.
I know this is unpopular to say, but actually, it seems more equitable and tolerable to me to raise (income) taxes across the board IF taxes must be raised than to just pick out some things "willy nilly" and say that we're going to now "tax" that. (Don't shoot me. I don't like that idea either but for whatever reason, to me it seems more "just" somehow.)
Anyhow, this issue really has caused me to evaluate where I stand on things. Maybe I really AM a true republican!
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Oh, wait! I AM a republican!
has made me really evaluate my political philosophies. I just don't believe communism works and I'm sorry, but this is what this smacks of to me.
Maybe that is wrong as well. Just because it's been taxed in the past and has precedent doesn't make it right.
but actually, it seems more equitable and tolerable to me to raise (income) taxes across the board IF taxes must be raised than to just pick out some things "willy nilly" and say that we're going to now "tax" that. (Don't shoot me. I don't like that idea either but for whatever reason, to me it seems more "just" somehow.
