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Old 11-20-2009, 09:40 AM
 
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No one in my direct family had any issue due to a pap smear test ....but one was treated after stage 3A was discovered at the age of 27....so what is more risk?
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No one in my direct family had any issue due to a pap smear test ....but one was treated after stage 3A was discovered at the age of 27....so what is more risk?
I'm sorry for your relative. Do keep in mind:

1. Anecdotes do not make a case

2. No one is recommending that pap smears be eliminated. They are merely recommending starting potentially later, and doing them every two years on women in their 20s.

Many women don't follow the once a year rule to the day, anyway.
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, I am a Republican and therefore no big fan of the Obama administration.

However, that said,....I'm not sure that this is big news about cervical screening, at least the part about not annually. I have heard for several years now that women who have not previously had an abnormal pap could go 3 years, not one between pap smears.

So I asked my dr what he thought about this, and I thought his answer had some wisdom. He said basically that cervical cancer is generally a slow growing cancer and that IF we could depend on a given pap smear to be 100% reliable, then yeah, you could probably go 3 years but he did NOT feel that paps are 100% reliable. Therefore, he felt it was better to do them yearly on the off chance that something was there but might not have been picked up the previous year.

I might add that at my age now (54) I will certainly be trying to do the annual pap smear. One of the ladies who worked in my building is deceased now. She was diagnosed with uterine cancer which had spread apparently from the cervix. She said she had kept up with her paps until the last few years when she let down. She felt if she had not, her cancer would have been discovered at an earlier stage.

My overall point here? I'm not sure I agree that less frequency than annually on the pap is a good idea medically, but I also don't believe these allegedly "new" recommendations are politically motivated. I just don't.

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Old 11-20-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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I have no reason not to take this woman at her word. If Sen. McCain had been elected I would feel the same:

"But the timing was coincidental, said Dr. Cheryl B. Iglesia, the chairwoman of a panel in the obstetricians’ group that developed the Pap smear (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/specialtopic/pap-smear-and-treatment/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier - broken link) guidelines. The group updates its advice regularly based on new medical information, and Dr. Iglesia said the latest recommendations had been in the works for several years, “long before the Obama health plan came into existence.†She called the timing crazy, uncanny and “an unfortunate perfect storm,†adding, “There’s no political agenda with regard to these recommendations.â€"


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/health/20pap.html?hp

Dr. Iglesia serves on the panel of The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

From their website, it states:

"One in five women of childbearing age and one in seven pregnant women are uninsured, and many are underinsured, lacking maternity coverage. Through our Health Care for Women, Health Care for All campaign, ACOG will work to ensure that the needs of women of all ages are addressed in health care reform, with a goal of achieving universal coverage to comprehensive, high-quality care for everyone in the United States."

This is also the organization who "revised" recommended intervals for pap smears.

ACOG Advocacy
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You can still go get it every year..just pay out of your pocket for those "off" years.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:13 AM
 
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No one in my direct family had any issue due to a pap smear test ....but one was treated after stage 3A was discovered at the age of 27....so what is more risk?
How is that relevant? We are talking about pap smears prior to the age of 21.

Cancer is sometimes genetic. In cases where a woman has a family history, she will be considered high risk, and this recommendation will not apply to her. In other cases, cancer is caused by environmental factors, and age becomes part of the equation. The science shows that the risks outweigh the benefits for women under the age of 21. Your anecdotal evidence is not relevant.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Dr. Iglesia serves on the panel of The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

From their website, it states:

"One in five women of childbearing age and one in seven pregnant women are uninsured, and many are underinsured, lacking maternity coverage. Through our Health Care for Women, Health Care for All campaign, ACOG will work to ensure that the needs of women of all ages are addressed in health care reform, with a goal of achieving universal coverage to comprehensive, high-quality care for everyone in the United States."

This is also the organization who "revised" recommended intervals for pap smears.

ACOG Advocacy
Thanks for the link.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:17 AM
 
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You can still go get it every year..just pay out of your pocket for those "off" years.
You don't even have to do that. You can talk to your doctor about your concerns, and get him to do the test each year, charging it to your insurance, just because he deems it necessary.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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Details, details. These researchers knew Obama was going to be president now. It's in the Mayan calendar, doncha know.
Yes, but what did Nostradamus say? And who should we believe??
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Obama and his bands of misfits will try anything to steal or ration away any rights people have.

Then when the majority speak up they back peddle on it.

They are lying again now saying that is not what they meant.

But it was and they know it.

Is called rationing, finding ways to cut out a large portion of care for certain people so they can hand it to others.

Good one Bentlebee!

We can see their scams from miles away.

What's next?
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