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Old 11-22-2009, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Austin
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The difference being, and I believe this, Obama would do nothing in the aftermath of another 9-11. And his supporters? They'd cheer.
I doubt it.

Anyway, not sure what's worse. Doing nothing or using 9/11 as an excuse to invade an innocent country for its oil, pass big brother spy laws that would make stalin jealous, and create a new bureaucracy Homeland Security. Bush and his pals cheered during 9/11 too. Now he had an excuse to invade Iraq and promote his imperial presidency.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The difference being, and I believe this, Obama would do nothing in the aftermath of another 9-11. And his supporters? They'd cheer.
Well, considering more Americans died in Iraq than on 9/11, history suggests that doing nothing is preferable to invading the wrong country.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:15 PM
 
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Yeah, Obama's pandering has definitely made things worse. His friends Chavez and Ahmadinajad are as nasty as ever.
It'll be interesting to hear O list his peace accomplishments when he accepts his Nobel "peace" prize.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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The difference being, and I believe this, Obama would do nothing in the aftermath of another 9-11. And his supporters? They'd cheer.
Your proof?

They would cheer? You mean like the palenstinians did, like all those in Iraq that we now protect did, like those in Saudi Arabia did.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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It depends who you are, I am sure KSM feels a lot safer.

Germany to send observer to NY for trial of Sept. 11 mastermind | News from The Post-Standard -

Could this administration be more inept?
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:25 PM
 
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I doubt it.

Anyway, not sure what's worse. Doing nothing or using 9/11 as an excuse to invade an innocent country for its oil, pass big brother spy laws that would make stalin jealous, and create a new bureaucracy Homeland Security. Bush and his pals cheered during 9/11 too. Now he had an excuse to invade Iraq and promote his imperial presidency.
An innocent country?

Inside Saddam's Reign of Terror | National Geographic Channel (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/inside-saddam-s-reign-of-terror-2908/Overview#tab-Videos - broken link)

GENOCIDE IN IRAQ
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Austin
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An innocent country?

Inside Saddam's Reign of Terror | National Geographic Channel (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/inside-saddam-s-reign-of-terror-2908/Overview#tab-Videos - broken link)
Oh' we are going to go there? Ok, then explain to me why Bush didn't give a **** about North Korea, Sudan, Turkmenistan, but Iraq gets singled out for freedom at gunpoint? If Bush went after every dictatorship like he did to Iraq I might believe the, "we were tying to help the Iraqis," argument but Bush's actions show that this is all BS.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:32 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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An innocent country?

Inside Saddam's Reign of Terror | National Geographic Channel (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/inside-saddam-s-reign-of-terror-2908/Overview#tab-Videos - broken link)

GENOCIDE IN IRAQ


They were innocent of actions against the US and human rights abuse is hardly limited to Iraq, start with places like China, Saudi Arabia, Belarus and so on down the line. Are you suggesting they're all our responsibility to 'liberate'? Care to point out where the Constitution tasks the US government with that responsibility?
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Yeah, Obama's pandering has definitely made things worse. His friends Chavez and Ahmadinajad are as nasty as ever.
Chavez, Ahmadinejad and all the other half-assed world leaders are not our problem unless we make them our problem. I'm glad we have a President who understands this.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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They were innocent of actions against the US and human rights abuse is hardly limited to Iraq, start with places like China, Saudi Arabia, Belaraus and so on down the line. Are you suggesting they're all our responsibility to 'liberate'? Care to point out where the Constitution tasks the US government with that responsibility?

Probably the same place it says the government can take over 16% of the economy.
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