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Old 11-25-2009, 10:17 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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I see you still think Rasmussen is a source of factual information, my my my. Now don't go off whining that I failed to respond to their speculations, and that is all they are, the difference is I see it for what it is and you think it is fact and run with it. Sorry, but to address their slanted specualtions would give it credabilty and I do not believe the op'ed warrants that. Besides, Rasumussen is not a member here, now if you have some real ideas of your own to post I would be happy to read them and maybe even discuss them, just leave the cut and paste behind.
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Casper
It's funny how the left uses Rasmussen when it suits their purposes, and only then.
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Gone
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It's funny how the left uses Rasmussen when it suits their purposes, and only then.
I never use Rasmussen for anything, they wear their bias on their sleeve, hence they are an unreliable source of anything.
Casper
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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I never use Rasmussen for anything, they wear their bias on their sleeve, hence they are an unreliable source of anything.
Casper
I tried that tack a long time ago and the left jumped all over me.
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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The Obama Administration and the Karzai Administration do not trust each other. I think that's the big hang up. An increase in troops will indirectly (ok, directly) prop up an obviously corrupt government. There will be money and troops devoted to training the security troops of a narco-regime whose members supply drugs to the street corners of this country.

But the alternative is a narco-regime whose members supply drugs to the street corners of this country. Also, it harbored a terrorist group that killed thousands of our citizens, and is determined to kill more.

...a rock and a hard place...

Eight years ago, all I wanted was bin Laden in a noose. I didn't want 4000 dead soldiers, hundreds of billions of dollars of military maneuvering, and two foreign states on our welfare rolls.

Geez, what a decade of tragic mismanagement!

Last edited by geofra; 11-25-2009 at 10:57 AM.. Reason: Clean up a sentence
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:17 AM
 
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it certainly is obvious that somebody is mad about the taliban disrupting the heroin market.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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i would hate to think that obama couldn't make a tough choice. we could always keep the soldiers employed guarding our OWN borders and we could certainly generate more jobs with the money saved by not fighting overseas. i am sure that it is much more costly to go fight a war around the world than at home just for logistical reasons.
Yes, but what I said is they aren't all soldiers. People in private industry make jeeps, tank parts, weapons, drones, meals, uniforms, etc. in this country and other people work in those same places as salesmen, PR people, secretaries, quality control, janitors and mail clerks. And small restaurants and stores near those places depend on those people as customers. If the war ends, and the war industry goes down, it would take a big toll on the economy and unemployment would skyrocket. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying there's more to the Obama decision than the war itself and everyone who wants him to pull out immediately hasn't really thought through what it would mean at home.

I'm guessing the President has considered it. Whether he's thought about it in terms of being the right thing to do, or not, he has surely considered the ramifications to the economy and/or his chances of re-election because of the economy. I was pretty much against him announcing a timetable for withdrawal because it just lets the enemy take a vacation before coming back but his announcement should also be HEARD by people in the war industry in the US that now might be a good time to think about diversifying so you don't go under when he starts pulling the troops out.
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