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Fox Host: Public Option Would Be Tax-Payer Funded Government Health Care Program
"The reason that the public option is so controversial is, it's a government-run health option. So if you can't get health care anywhere else, this is the idea, that you could get it from this government-offered plan, which of course would be paid for by the taxpayers."
In reality, the public option would be available, as one option among many other private options, to people shopping in the health insurance exchange.
Yep. The new plan will cover more people with the same number of health care workers, exclude no one including those who decide to put off signing up until they are sick, give subsidies to those who are unable to afford the premiums, never ration care for any reason and, best of all, do all this without using any tax payer money.
Yep. The new plan will cover more people with the same number of health care workers, exclude no one including those who decide to put off signing up until they are sick, give subsidies to those who are unable to afford the premiums, never ration care for any reason and, best of all, do all this without using any tax payer money.
Let's not forget, no illegals will be included at our expense!
Yep. The new plan will cover more people with the same number of health care workers, exclude no one including those who decide to put off signing up until they are sick, give subsidies to those who are unable to afford the premiums, never ration care for any reason and, best of all, do all this without using any tax payer money.
Quite a leap to assume these taxes will be used to fund specifically the Public Option portion of Health Care Reform.
Quite a leap? Please, it would be a leap to assume that taxes, IN THE BILL, were not going to be used to help fund the plans the bill is written for..
If ONE DIME of taxpayers money is used towards the "public option" Fox didnt lie..
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I think what scares me the most about this thread is the fact that I actually think there are honestly people who don't realize that there is no lie here.
This is the statement made on-air by the FOX News bimbette...
The reason that the public option is so controversial is, it's a government-run health option. So if you can't get health care anywhere else, this is the idea, that you could get it from this government-offered plan, which of course would be paid for by the taxpayers.
She doesn't offer anything to clarify what she meant by that. If she meant that gee, the people who might participate in the public option would also pay taxes and so would be taxpayers, then their premiums paid into the public option would indeed mean that the public option was being paid for by taxpayers. If she meant that the offices that public option staff worked in would be connected to local water systems that are subsidized by taxpayers, then the the public option would be paid for by taxpayers. As has been noted now several times, the startup costs of the public option are provided for in the bill, and while there is no one-to-one correspondence, the bill itself is paid for in part by taxes, so maybe the taxpayer is chipping in at least part of the up-front public option costs, even though these are to be reimbursed over time.
But none of those is the plainest or most obvious interpretation of her words. The most obvious interpretation is that taxpayers will be providing some sort of on-going support for the public option that they do not provide to any private sector option. That interpretation is false.
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They honestly believe that government run health care isn't going to be paid for by taxpayers. Government run anything is paid for by the taxpayers.
That is also false. Certainly there are a lot of government operations that are funded by appropriations from general revenues, but many are not. Once established, the public option would join the ranks of the latter.
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Where do you all think the money is going to come from to cover the presumed 40M uncovered Americans who presumably can't afford insurance (that number is faulty but it's the one 'they' use).
It isn't the one 'they' use, but never mind. The public option is available only to those who are eligible to purchase insurance through an exchange, and only about a fifth of those would be expected to choose the public option. Roughly 5 or 6 million people. Everyone else will still be on a private sector insurance plan of one sort or another.
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One last thing ...... no one is denied health care even now whether they can afford it or not, not one single person including illegal immigrants. They walk into any hospital ER and they are taken care of, they don't even need an appointment. So if there's a lie going on, it's the LIE that there are people out there not getting health care.
Uninsured ER walk-ins are provided the absolute minimum care that must legally and ethically be provided before pushing them back out the door again. If your insurance company were suddenly to reduce your coverage to such levels, you would be outraged. You would not call what you were receiving "health care".
Holy Crap you really are a piece of work. WHERE IS THE FREAKIN MONEY COMING FROM???? Ok let me try it this way:
Lets pretend they pass this bill. Now I don't have health coverage and I don't work so I go on the public option. I can not contribute for my share. Who is paying my share?
You are confused -- again/still/as always -- this time over the difference between subsidies to individuals or businesses and subsidies to the public option. It is the latter that are at issue here, and there aren't any of those after the start-up costs. By the way, you can't just decide to enroll in the public option. In general, you must work or have worked for a small business that did not provide a health insurance option while still being too well off to be eligible for Medicaid.
Actually yes, MSNBC plays a fine line adhering to the Journalistic Code of Ethics on its Broadcast Stations but not on Cable. FOX simply efuses the Code of Ethics and maintains its right to alter the truth
MSNBC???
Ethical???
Now that is funny, they are the biggest bunch of hacks I have ever seen!
Remember, if you have no other insurance, you MUST be included in the public option, because having NO insurance is illegal, and you'll be in jail for 5 years.
But the liberals think that's ok, apparently.
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