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Old 11-26-2009, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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looks like I would have be an atheist in hiding to fight for my freedoms no way sharia law will be used in the us because we won't let our rights be taken away with out a massive fight look at ww2 when hittler tried to rule europe and africa we came together and fought them off so we could be free
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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A bible ruled world has already failed. No one religion will dominate. We "need" friction to get up in the morning.
I think you might find a lot of difference. You would have to live in dhimmitude or you would have to convert to Muslim. Even that conversion wouldn't allow you to be equal to original Muslims. You would be more of a slave than many think. As a second class citizen, which dhimmis are, you could only have certain jobs and not own a business.

I think that most people who don't believe in the Bible would find that they would live the same way as Christians in the world run by the Muslim Caliphate. You say the Bible run world has been unsuccessful but Christians allowed religious freedom from the beginning and the Muslims don't force you to convert but would never treat you as an equal like we have.
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Cruxan, did you have those videos handy when you started this thread? If so why didn't you get them in at the beginning. Now people are having a good time and talking about the fact that what happened in Europe couldn't happen here. Are we not as PC as they are today? Is it not PC that allowed them to get a foothold in Europe? Do we not have many radicals living here already with all the moderates afraid to speak out against the radicals?

Honestly I wonder if anyone here knows what dhimmi means. Living in dhimmitude would not be nice for Christians, atheists or anyone else not a Muslim. Dhimmis are not allowed to own businesses and cannot work at any job they want to. I think it is time for each person who reads this to google dhimmi and try to find out what it really is. Would any of our citizens be accepting of second class citizenship? Would the Christians among us be willing to not have their churches as they have had? If one can't see how they treated Christians during the Crusades he is not going to last long when they do take over.

It is easy to assume that all the people over 35 who are here will probably not have to worry before they die naturally. I have two sons who are below 30 and I don't want this for them. However, PC and just plain hate for our government is leading us down the road to where Europe is now. Maybe we better throw in with Canada and Mexico and try to keep the Muslims out of North America after removing most of them we have now. I don't like that but I really don't want them to control this part of the world and they are certainly headed that direction.
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:58 PM
 
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Cruxan, did you have those videos handy when you started this thread? If so why didn't you get them in at the beginning. Now people are having a good time and talking about the fact that what happened in Europe couldn't happen here. Are we not as PC as they are today? Is it not PC that allowed them to get a foothold in Europe? Do we not have many radicals living here already with all the moderates afraid to speak out against the radicals?

Honestly I wonder if anyone here knows what dhimmi means. Living in dhimmitude would not be nice for Christians, atheists or anyone else not a Muslim. Dhimmis are not allowed to own businesses and cannot work at any job they want to. I think it is time for each person who reads this to google dhimmi and try to find out what it really is. Would any of our citizens be accepting of second class citizenship? Would the Christians among us be willing to not have their churches as they have had? If one can't see how they treated Christians during the Crusades he is not going to last long when they do take over.

It is easy to assume that all the people over 35 who are here will probably not have to worry before they die naturally. I have two sons who are below 30 and I don't want this for them. However, PC and just plain hate for our government is leading us down the road to where Europe is now. Maybe we better throw in with Canada and Mexico and try to keep the Muslims out of North America after removing most of them we have now. I don't like that but I really don't want them to control this part of the world and they are certainly headed that direction.
yes i should have did the vids in the beginning but didn't think of them to later... i can see where the future is heading with the muslims and it does not look good. i think it's already to late for most of europe but we still have a chance in north and south america to avoid future domination. its a serious issue it's no joke!!!!! and esspecially for women..i have nothing against muslims in general but that religion scares the crap outa me!!!!!once they get control of the governments in europe that will mark the end of freedoms as they know it... we can't let that happen to the usa!!!!! i was reading about a poll on the internet and it stated that global warming was the most frightning issue to most people around the world. well compared to the islamic religion it's like comparing an ant to a blue whale.. there infiltrating the countries of the world thru religion, it's time for people to wake up to the serious issues facing humanity,, and stop worrying what paris hillton, brtitney spears did last night. the lame time news networks don't even cover such events americans are being brainwashed by the local lamestream networks. like you said i'm over 35 so i'm not worred for myself but its a different story for the younger gens their the ones that will have to live with it.
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:16 PM
 
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so what will it be like.. will women have to wear a vail, will they lose there freedoms in an islamic quran governed world!!!!! islam is the fastest growing relegion. what changes should we expect in the next few decades..
forget about all the on-line porn
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:51 AM
 
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so what will it be like.. will women have to wear a vail, will they lose there freedoms in an islamic quran governed world!!!!! islam is the fastest growing relegion. what changes should we expect in the next few decades..

Just look at countries run by it now........ it's simple.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:56 AM
 
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forget about all the on-line porn
Porn makes men forgetful.
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:10 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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yes i should have did the vids in the beginning but didn't think of them to later... i can see where the future is heading with the muslims and it does not look good. i think it's already to late for most of europe but we still have a chance in north and south america to avoid future domination. its a serious issue it's no joke!!!!! and esspecially for women..i have nothing against muslims in general but that religion scares the crap outa me!!!!!once they get control of the governments in europe that will mark the end of freedoms as they know it... we can't let that happen to the usa!!!!! i was reading about a poll on the internet and it stated that global warming was the most frightning issue to most people around the world. well compared to the islamic religion it's like comparing an ant to a blue whale.. there infiltrating the countries of the world thru religion, it's time for people to wake up to the serious issues facing humanity,, and stop worrying what paris hillton, brtitney spears did last night. the lame time news networks don't even cover such events americans are being brainwashed by the local lamestream networks. like you said i'm over 35 so i'm not worred for myself but its a different story for the younger gens their the ones that will have to live with it.
I think you are correct. This is the biggest threat, and growing. The problem with those who would call us paranoid and fear mongers is that they know next to nothing about the religion, its origins, the way their prophet changed it, and how it's being used to wield power over others. It's all about power, you know, in the name of Allah (whoever that is). All people know about it is what the media reports - which is very selective and repeats over and over that "Islam is a peaceful religion". That is NOT the message that needs to be driven home. The evil core and corruption within has to be brought to the light of day. Google some books on Amazon under the topic by author Caner. You'll find some outstanding eye opening reading there. Unless one is informed, one isn't aware of the seriousness of the threat.

I especially recommend:
Unveiling Islam: An Insider's Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs by Ergun Caner and Emir Fethi Caner and The Truth About Islam and Jihad by John Ankerberg and Emir Caner.

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Old 11-27-2009, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I think you are correct. This is the biggest threat, and growing. The problem with those who would call us paranoid and fear mongers is that they know next to nothing about the religion, its origins, the way their prophet changed it, and how it's being used to wield power over others. It's all about power, you know, in the name of Allah (whoever that is). All people know about it is what the media reports - which is very selective and repeats over and over that "Islam is a peaceful religion". That is NOT the message that needs to be driven home. The evil core and corruption within has to be brought to the light of day. Google some books on Amazon under the topic by author Caner. You'll find some outstanding eye opening reading there. Unless one is informed, one isn't aware of the seriousness of the threat.

I especially recommend:
Unveiling Islam: An Insider's Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs by Ergun Caner and Emir Fethi Caner and The Truth About Islam and Jihad by John Ankerberg and Emir Caner.
There are those here right now who have no idea how much of a threat Islam is to us right now. They seemingly know as little about Islam as I did when I believed it was no threat.

I think very few know that the Koran is really two books. One that Mohammed wrote while he was battling to take over Arabia and the other after he had pretty well done it. The Islamists of today use the words of the second book to make their adherents believe that power and force are to be used to further the religion among the infidels. A totally different book and a different religion. So many Muslims don't believe the second part and they will be dominated by the Islamists just as we of the dhimmi part of the world will be.

Scary as hell to me and surely much more than global warming, even if the warming was true and man was the whole cause.

I wonder why so many people don't realize that the beheading of Christians during the Iraq war was purely second book Mohammed writing.


We are bound to be taken in by PC and the allowance of them to practice as they choose.
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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yes i should have did the vids in the beginning but didn't think of them to later... i can see where the future is heading with the muslims and it does not look good. i think it's already to late for most of europe but we still have a chance in north and south america to avoid future domination. its a serious issue it's no joke!!!!! and esspecially for women..i have nothing against muslims in general but that religion scares the crap outa me!!!!!once they get control of the governments in europe that will mark the end of freedoms as they know it... we can't let that happen to the usa!!!!! i was reading about a poll on the internet and it stated that global warming was the most frightning issue to most people around the world. well compared to the islamic religion it's like comparing an ant to a blue whale.. there infiltrating the countries of the world thru religion, it's time for people to wake up to the serious issues facing humanity,, and stop worrying what paris hillton, brtitney spears did last night. the lame time news networks don't even cover such events americans are being brainwashed by the local lamestream networks. like you said i'm over 35 so i'm not worred for myself but its a different story for the younger gens their the ones that will have to live with it.
I have tried all over the internet to convince people that the moderate Muslims we think are against the militants really are hanging back and waiting for the establishing of the world wide Caliphate, to little avail with most people. The media is talking about them being a religion of peace but those who kill people in the name of Allah aren't at all peaceful and they want to establish that caliphate.

We have been seeing all that crap about the UK for some time now. I wonder how many people realize that in an act of PC the British allowed the Muslims in the larger cities to establish Sharia in all cases that involve the family. It is nothing but a case of give them an inch and they will take a mile. When we start backing off from those who want to take us over they see that as an act of weakness and come at us harder and harder. That is the reason that so many of us want Obama to stop apologizing to the Muslim nations, if he can.
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