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The flag went up on top of the state house in SC in 1965. Right after the civil rights act was passed. It was a direct symbol of racism and support of the jim crow laws. At the same time is when the dixiecrats decided to turn republican. Anyone who cant understand why that flag represents racism needs to look up the real history of that flag post civil war.
if you think the war was just about slavery, you should do a little research as well.
Honestly I have shared my opinion of the southern flag with many mississippians when I lived in Biloxi. My take is that the Confederacy was an enemy of the USA. Therefore to me it's like waving a banner that represents Al Quada(sp), just my take. The south has a rich history and much to be proud of but the Civil War isn't one of those.
No, they (the Southern states) wished to seperate themselves from a political connection with the northern states. NOT from the principles of the Founding Fathers and the United States Constitution and Declaration of Independence (both of which were largely written by Southerners). This is evident in the CSA Constitution (which varied only superficially, with the original).
All that lead to war, but that the spirit which propelled the secession of the Southern states was motivated by a desire to overthrow the United States government (or anything similar) is just not true. All they wanted to do was go their own way. The South offered to negotiate a mutually benificial defence and economic alliance with the North...open up the Mississippi for free trade and navigation. Sure, there were hot-heads, but it is telling that Jefferson Davis was elected president...and he was a "moderate." He represented the majority of Southerners who didn't want war, just to be left alone.
Well said TexasReb, about some of the slavery ordinances and entries in the C.S.A's Constitution, was it to keep the limited Central government of the C.S. out of the issue (to counterbalance the U.S. government when they got into it), or to protect the owners property rights?
I didn't. Could you be a bit more explicit? Or do a better job of pasting?
I'm not sure how to paste that better. It come through embarassingly horridly but I guess my point is that I'm on the right and have ZERO support for the Confederate flag
Well everyone does have the right to hold up the confederate flag and I see it alot in Georgia
just as long as they don't bother me then I am fine with it because its on their property
we can't stop folks from doing things like that its their natural right
I'm not sure how to paste that better. It come through embarassingly horridly but I guess my point is that I'm on the right and have ZERO support for the Confederate flag
And I am a liberal and like the Confederate flag.
The Confederate flag is not a liberal vs conservative issue
Why, look at why Texas seceded - purely a principled decision on rights, nothing about slavery at all. Well, hardly.
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Originally Posted by Texas' Declaration of Secession
We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable. That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States.
Texas, for instance, has a perfectly fine flag that covers the entirety of its history. Why zoom in on the exact timeframe where Texans fought for - well, that?
Well said TexasReb, about some of the slavery ordinances and entries in the C.S.A's Constitution, was it to keep the limited Central government of the C.S. out of the issue (to counterbalance the U.S. government when they got into it), or to protect the owners property rights?
It is an interesting "comparisson" between the original United States Constituion and that adopted by the Confederacy. That is to say, not much difference! LOL
The major (if such terms can be used) between the U.S. and C.S. was to re-emphasize the soveriegn capacity of the individual states.
I'm not sure how to paste that better. It come through embarassingly horridly but I guess my point is that I'm on the right and have ZERO support for the Confederate flag
You are entitled to your opinion--just as everyone else who has posted to this thread--and you get no argument from me. I just thought it would be an interesting poll to see where people who hate the Confederate flag (for whatever reason), those who love the Confederate flag (for whatever reason) and those who are indifferent to the Confederate flag fall on the political spectrum. That's all. No more, no less.
BTW what were you pasting and what point were you trying to make by pasting it?
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Nope, not about slavery at all.
