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Old 11-29-2009, 08:26 AM
 
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Wait, you just said

Your telling me more people listen to "hate filled" postings than "hate filled" Air America, and thats your justification for being very concerned about those on the right, vs the left?
Who listens to Air America? The liberal mind does not function on the same basis as the conservative mind. They're not just mirror images of one another.

For whatever reason, the conservative mind seeks to have its preconceived notions reinforced, thus why Fox is so successful. The liberal mind, generally speaking, seeks to challenge its preconceived notions.

I don't know why, but researchers have done psychological studies that bear it out.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:30 AM
 
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Think of it as saving up for the down payment on a house. There are actual start-up costs in any plan of this scale and there has been much effort put into assuring that potential dislocations are not so sudden or severe as to cause the existing insurance industry and its many workers to be spun off into economic chaos. This plan begins a measured, slow, and gradual process of getting us off of a fatal status quo, moving us toward the type of national health care system that we can actually live with in the long-run, both health-wise and budget-wise.
Wrong analagy, because people start paying taxes now to receive NOTHING later, you know your argument, that its being funded COMPLETELY by premiums, then why does the rest of america need to "save up for a down payment" on something they arent receiving or paying for?

Why the need for "taxes" now, if only $2B in tax revenues are being used to fund the healthcare and the rest from premiums?

Cant even keep your own story straight from one thread to another.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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George W Bush and his Republican enablers took America from one of its historic high points to one of its historic low points in a mere eight years. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
...and Bam-Bam managed to quadruple that in only 8 MONTHS
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:31 AM
 
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Who listens to Air America? The liberal mind does not function on the same basis as the conservative mind. They're not just mirror images of one another.

For whatever reason, the conservative mind seeks to have its preconceived notions reinforced, thus why Fox is so successful. The liberal mind, generally speaking, seeks to challenge its preconceived notions.

I don't know why, but researchers have done psychological studies that bear it out.
I note you didnt at all respond to my statement but tried to change the subject to what you perceive to be a "difference of the mind".

Are you telling me that liberals, the very same ones who dont listen to Air America, listen to some unknown voice on a webforum? You do seem to be very afraid of "conservatives" over what you pretend they say.. Maybe its the little voices talking to you that you should be afraid of.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: FL/TX Coasts
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Stay tuned for the great depression under Obama's watch!
I never feared for America until now!
We have a radical terrorist as a president.
Obama has spend more money than any other president in history!
We are in deeper trouble than ever and our children will suffer
from the mass debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is sick and i can see why we have tea baggers all over
the USA supporting against government takeover!
A very poor and classic sign of dysfunctional reasoning!
But it is kind of expected from a right wing nut…
Have you attended college?
You could have learned how to show disagreement with respect. But unfortunately ignorance will always consequence into fear.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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But unfortunately ignorance will always consequence into fear.
But you didnt have a problem with this fear, did you?
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Hate speech is when people call for our president to be murdered, quote Bible verses justifying Obama's murder and orphaning of his children, and eagerly hoping Obama contracts cancer.

I am fearful for our president for very good reason - especially when people start using quotes from the religious text they have chosen to adopt as their truth.
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No doubt Obama will emerge, so long as he doesn't get gunned down by an extremist with worse repercussions than when Reagan did.

Reading hate-filled posts on this forum from the far right, I worry.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:49 AM
 
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I note you didnt at all respond to my statement but tried to change the subject to what you perceive to be a "difference of the mind".

Are you telling me that liberals, the very same ones who dont listen to Air America, listen to some unknown voice on a webforum? You do seem to be very afraid of "conservatives" over what you pretend they say.. Maybe its the little voices talking to you that you should be afraid of.
Well, I guess I didn't understand your point. Still not sure I understand, but, no, I don't think liberals listen to some unknown voice on a web forum any more than anyone else.

And what is this talk about "pretending" what they say? Go to a Palin rally someday. Listen to conservative talk radio - especially the call ins. Scary stuff.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:50 AM
 
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Think of it as saving up for the down payment on a house. There are actual start-up costs in any plan of this scale and there has been much effort put into assuring that potential dislocations are not so sudden or severe as to cause the existing insurance industry and its many workers to be spun off into economic chaos. This plan begins a measured, slow, and gradual process of getting us off of a fatal status quo, moving us toward the type of national health care system that we can actually live with in the long-run, both health-wise and budget-wise.
That was only done so it looks like it was budget neutral or that it would save on the budget deficit. The 10 years after 2019, not so much. Of course that can be fixed by yet even more taxes but, for the time being, just get it through and let the people find out about that later, right?
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:52 AM
 
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But you didnt have a problem with this fear, did you?
What don't you understand about a 400% increase in threats against our president's life over the Bush era?

We can't just stick our heads in the sand and pretend that any awareness of threats against our president and armed racist militias don't exist. I'm sorry your side isn't the shining beacon on the hill of upstanding righteousness, but that's just the reality in which we live.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: FL/TX Coasts
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But you didnt have a problem with this fear, did you?
Stop watching Faux news...they excel in distorting NEWS. Shawn has admitted to that.
Be happy, enjoy your daily life, help your neighbors, make new friends…be a human don’t be a Right Wing Nut…it will only hurt you in the long run.
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