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Old 11-28-2009, 08:08 AM
 
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Have problems with the truth?
Actually I don't...unlike liberals..
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:35 AM
 
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Aren't food pantries Socialism?

The alternative being starvation?
Socialism is when the government does it, if the food pantry is set up by a church or group of people donating freely then it has nothing to do with socialism. Charity is the opposite of socialism.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:39 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Not the greatest article to pick for a tear jerker.

"Hubert Scheid, 76, drives a Lexus and owns a two-bedroom condo in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., but says he has depleted his savings and works part time as a security guard to pay for rent, food and medication."
Owns a condo but works to pay rent?

" "With seniors and retirees — people that were planning for that period of their life "

""We just have Social Security and a small pension, and we just can't make it with the mortgage payments and the gas and electric and so forth," Shewchuk said. "It's just draining our resources.""

Planning?A mortgage in their 70's?
They didn't know whether or not SS and a small pension would cover mortgage payments before this? It may not be the economy that's entirely responsible for their situation

whether you own your home or not, you always pay rent to your state goverment, or did you forget that stupid tax called property tax?
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:41 AM
 
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Hows all that hope and change socialism working out for you...

Recession sends older Americans to food pantries - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_hungry_seniors - broken link)

the old bones would be going to a food pantry anyway, people, poor people esp always go to food pantry no one talks about them, its not suitable for news or controversial i guess

i sometimes wish mccain was elected just to see how many of these people talk the way they do, the boards will actually have less posts all pointing at CLINTON
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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Actually I don't...unlike liberals..
LOL
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Aren't food pantries Socialism?

The alternative being starvation?
It depends. If it's government run then I would agree.

If it's run by a church then I would say that is charity.
I donate to church run food pantries and consider that charity.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Hows all that hope and change socialism working out for you...

Recession sends older Americans to food pantries - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_hungry_seniors - broken link)
FYI: things were going down-----------------fast while Bush was still in office. My own income dipped down (and has remained down) on the order of 30-40% since January 2008.

Trust me: there are lots of things about the Obama Administration that disgust me but; this recession I cannot hang on him. Especially looking at Dubai showing the classic signs of fiscal collapse.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You have to remember that these folks don't have high SS payments, no 401K's and not all have pensions. They are on fixed income. They were children in the depression, not baby boomers.

A different generation..one that was not "flush with money". They are from the Silent Generation.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Hows it his fault...basically spending the nation into bankruptcy; trillion dollar stimulus waste that hasn't worked...socialized medicine...Cap & Tax....coming down the pike...yeah I would say its his fault!!!
.........and what about the bailout of Wall Street during Bush's watch (September/October 2008)?

In all fairness: history will be the final arbitor whether the above was the right move or not. IMHO: Bush may have headed off a full on 'Great Depression' style downturn by helping out AIG, etc.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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If we truly had socialism, there would be no need for food pantries...or at least there wouldn't be a HUGE need for them.

Thank capitalism for a rise in the number of hungry people in America.
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