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Old 11-28-2009, 02:53 PM
 
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Yet their schools are still underfunded, they lack healthcare, have higher percentages of debt, have higher dropout rates in secondary and post secondary levels, and live in the most crime ridden communities. The poor have it soooo good.
Usually the schools in poor neighborhoods are funded better than those in middle class neighborhoods. It costs more supposedly to educate the children of the poor because their parents fail to provide much education at home. The higher drop out rates are a choice the poor make. Same with criminal lifestyles. There is no reason that poor have to commit more crimes but they do.
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Central, IL
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Usually the schools in poor neighborhoods are funded better than those in middle class neighborhoods. It costs more supposedly to educate the children of the poor because their parents fail to provide much education at home. The higher drop out rates are a choice the poor make. Same with criminal lifestyles. There is no reason that poor have to commit more crimes but they do.
I wish the schools in my poor neighborhood got half of the funding as the ones in the middle class neighborhoods get.
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Old 11-28-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: southern california
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a common inital shock in the welfare dept --- all clients have cell phones and cable and the workers dont.
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Old 11-28-2009, 03:04 PM
 
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Forget about inflation or those stagnating incomes, everyone having dryers and microwaves is the best metric to measure our economic condition.
Well, just one statistic is enough: 98% of households have color T.V.s (I won't even mention the premium channels subscribed to by "the poor".)

I suspect a truly poor person from a Third World country would slap your gourd for your silly remark. That's a "metric" that will leave a mark!
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Old 11-28-2009, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Usually the schools in poor neighborhoods are funded better than those in middle class neighborhoods. It costs more supposedly to educate the children of the poor because their parents fail to provide much education at home. The higher drop out rates are a choice the poor make. Same with criminal lifestyles. There is no reason that poor have to commit more crimes but they do.
Huh? I'm speechless.
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Old 11-28-2009, 03:33 PM
 
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That's an unconvincing excuse for the increasing disparity in income. Technological advances and purchasing patterns are irrelevant to the fact that purchasing power has been stagnant for the middle-class.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:19 PM
 
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Usually the schools in poor neighborhoods are funded better than those in middle class neighborhoods. It costs more supposedly to educate the children of the poor because their parents fail to provide much education at home. The higher drop out rates are a choice the poor make. Same with criminal lifestyles. There is no reason that poor have to commit more crimes but they do.
No they aren't better funded. The drop out rates aren't simply a matter of choice, but also that of circumstance (esp. in college where there is a severe lack of funding for students.) Typically, higher rates of poverty, higher rates of unemployment, and low education contribute to crime.

You can cling on to the belief that being poor is better, but reality has a nasty way of providing the truth.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:24 PM
 
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Well, just one statistic is enough: 98% of households have color T.V.s (I won't even mention the premium channels subscribed to by "the poor".)

I suspect a truly poor person from a Third World country would slap your gourd for your silly remark. That's a "metric" that will leave a mark!
What? It is a horrible metric to use access to consumer goods as a measure of wealth.

In the 1950s, the middle class didn't have color TVs. Are people "richer" now that they have color televisions? Not really, no.

Social mobility, wealth disparity, as well as how fast wages rise in terms to price of goods, services, and inflation are better metrics.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Washington
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Yes, while the poor starve and die of simple diseases that the rich take for granted, they should all thank St Reagan for their microwaves, washer and dryers and televisions...very cool things that make life worth living if you are poor, right?

Seriously, there apparently arent many poor people here.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/070409a.html

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/070409a.html

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/070409a.html


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Old 11-28-2009, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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We sure do treat our poor very well in this country. I don't think you could find a poor kid without a playstation or nintendo player with all the latest games. Plus they have unlimited food to eat. There's really no motivation to work for a living when you already have it all. It's the middle class that's being squeezed, not the poor and not the rich.
I don't know many poor people with the "latest" systems and games. They may have earlier versions of Playstation or Nintendo but not the new $300 systems and $50 games. I know a "poor" family and those kids have one of the old games that you plug cartridges into the top of. They also do not have a flat screen TV or much of anything that would be "new".
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