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I would like to reply to your reply point by point but don't see any use in doing so since you have done that old liberal thing of attacking with nothing but attempt to change the topic as much as possible. If you read that letter you did so with a very hard leaning attitude so nothing in it really got through your liberal shield.
As a white woman who is about fifteen years younger than the author of this letter, I don't identify much with what she says. For me, the eight years preceding Obama pretty much sucked. This would be my letter, and I would be overjoyed if someone could find common ground between us. I've tried to offer a pretty much point-by-point response to what she says.
I am sick of the idea of states' rights. States' rights has meant that at least 5000 black people have been killed because of lynching, and it also meant that the Jim Crow system survived far longer than it should have. People tried to launch anti-lynching measures over and over again in the U.S., and they failed because of states' rights arguments, even under FDR. States' rights arguments have also ensured that public education has languished in the Deep South as compared to the rest of the country as documented by every possible measure.
I could care less about illegal immigration. A working class, former waiter girl, I know exactly how the service economy works in the U.S. Undocumented workers work in the back of the house, outside of restaurant patrons' view. I serve the food and charm the guests; dishwashers wash the dishes. I have no idea if my great-grandparents had papers or not when they arrived on Ellis Island in 1910, and I don't care. We made it work, and we will continue to.
The stimulus bill was an unnecessary evil born out of a lack of regulation in both the housing and investment markets. I don't like it, but it is necessary discipline. A bunch of people behaved like children, consumers and businesses alike. We are now grounded, but at least we're not starving.
A czar is just a metaphor for a person who is in charge of things. Czars were the pre-Soviet name for rulers. I really don't get why people are upset with this one.
Some form of cap and trade is probably necessary because, unfortunately, many people refuse to assume the costs of their actions and selfishly want everyone else to pay. See behaving like children above. In my lifetime, and I have lived in both rural and urban areas, our shared physical space has deteriorated. We have to stop this somehow. I'd be welcome to hear other alternatives.
I would love an ethos of less government control. Can my gay friends get married, now, please?
There are serious misunderstandings of ACORN. ACORN was arguably entrapped. Haliburton, Blackwater, and other firms have been accused of far worse, and their alleged crimes have cost into the billions. This issue is a species of red herring.
There has always been redistribution of wealth. When I trade my labor for money, redistribution of wealth is happening. The problem is that now, wealth is being concentrated into fewer and fewer hands. Working people should be upset at the oligarchs about this, and these people are not in public service.
I don't know what the letter writer means about charitable contributions. How has this category changed?
Corporate bailouts have been happening since the emergence of corporations. See above. The corporate bailouts of late 2008/early 2009 were meant to forestall a far worse crisis--a necessary evil.
I don't see how the increase in spending since November 2008 has been unprecedented. I'd like to see some numbers, scaled for today's values, to support that.
Finally, I don't see how our Constitution is really threatened today. The PATRIOT Act did more to threaten it in 2001-2002 than anything else I've seen.
I am right with you Diva360.
My only point I'd like to add is that I do believe that the shock and awe reactions to the semantics of the "czar" word is just melodramatic hysteria.
This word was brought to us FIRST during the Reagan administration!
Remember Nancy and her "Just Say 'No to drugs'" campaign?
How quickly people forget. "Czar" began with the beloved "Dutch"! Gee, Thanks Gipper
What's with all the postings of spam e-mails lately? Can't people generate real discussion based on their own thoughts rather than spamming the board with the contents of their junk box?
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I am right with you Diva360.
My only point I'd like to add is that I do believe that the shock and awe reactions to the semantics of the "czar" word is just melodramatic hysteria.
This word was brought to us FIRST during the Reagan administration!
Remember Nancy and her "Just Say 'No to drugs'" campaign?
How quickly people forget. "Czar" began with the beloved "Dutch"! Gee, Thanks Gipper
I know, and I remember that. The whole Czar thing started with the Reagans. I don't understand why this gets to people. Don't people understand that Czar was a pre-Bolshevik term?
I would like to reply to your reply point by point but don't see any use in doing so since you have done that old liberal thing of attacking with nothing but attempt to change the topic as much as possible. If you read that letter you did so with a very hard leaning attitude so nothing in it really got through your liberal shield.
Why do you seem more interested in labeling the poster than responding to the ideas?
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