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Old 11-29-2009, 10:24 PM
 
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This has to be the email forward of the year! Please take a few minutes to read and absorb just what this woman had to say, and then hopefully everyone will pass it to their entire mailing list, and theirs to theirs until it circles the nation! Time is short and arrogance, stupidity and ignorance abound..............

The following letter read on Glenn Beck's show, is rapidly circulating around the country. Americans everywhere identify with this 53-year-old woman. She has given us a voice. Once you read this, you will want to forward it to all of your friends...

GLENN BECK: I got a letter from a woman in Arizona . She writes an open letter to our nation's leadership:


"I am a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my life. Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican because I no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. Now I no longer feel the Republican Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. The fact is I no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington represents my views or works to pursue the issues important to me. Instead, we are burdened with Congressional Dukes and Duchesses who think they know better than the citizens they are supposed to represent.

There must be someone. Please tell me who you are. Please stand up and tell me that you are there and that you're willing to fight for our Constitution as it was written. Please stand up now.
You might ask yourself what my views and issues are that I would feel so horribly disenfranchised by both major political parties. What kind of nut-job am I? Well, these briefly are the views and issues for which I seek representation:

One, illegal immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution. P.S., I'm not a racist. This is not to be confused with legal immigration.


Two, the STIMULUS bill. I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you No, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.


Three: Czars. I want the circumvention of our constitutional checks and balances stopped immediately. Fire the czars. No more czars. Government officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling on our Constitution, and honor it.


Four, cap and trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There are many conflicting opinions and it is too soon for this radical legislation. Quit throwing our nation into politically-correct quicksand.


Five, universal healthcare. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision that will burden me, my children, and grandchildren. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night without even reading it. Slow down! Fix only what is broken -- we have the best health care system in the world -- and test any new program in one or two states first.


Six, growing government control. I want states rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. More is not better! Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real [Constitutional] obligations. Why don't you start there.


Seven, ACORN. I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of our 2010 census. I want them investigated. I also do not want mandatory escrow fees contributed to them every time on every real estate deal that closes -- how did they pull that one off? Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits and investigations. I do not trust them with taking the census with our taxpayer money. I don't trust them with any of our taxpayer money. Face up to the allegations against them and get it resolved before taxpayers get any more involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, hello. Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. Investigate.


Eight, redistribution of wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs -- and that is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person! Why do you want me to hate my employers? And what do you have against shareholders making a profit?


Nine, charitable contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.


Ten, corporate bailouts. Knock it off. Every company must sink or swim like the rest of us. If there are hard times ahead, we'll be better off just getting into it and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. (Have you ever ripped off a Band-Aid?) We will pull together. Great things happen in America under great hardship. Give us the chance to innovate. We cannot disappoint you more than you have disappointed us.


Eleven, transparency and accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please stop trying to manipulate and appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.


Twelve, unprecedented quick spending. Stop it now.
Take a breath. Listen to the people. Slow down and get some input from nonpoliticians and experts on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency. Stop speed-reading our bills into law. I am not an activist. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a terrorist, a militant or a violent person. I am a parent and a grandparent. I work. I'm busy. I am busy, and I am tired. I thought we elected competent people to take care of the business of government so that we could work, raise our families, pay our bills, have a little recreation, complain about taxes, endure our hardships, pursue our personal goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on the weekends and be responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to be the same all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave.


I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the checks and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened? You are very far off course. Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to unintelligently ramble all through a bill that you signed into law without knowing what it contained? I do not.
It is a mockery of the responsibility I have entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your arrogance. Why is it that I feel as if you would not trust me to make a single decision about my own life and how I would live it but you should expect that I should trust you with the debt that you have laid on all of us and our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would repeal it if we could. I am sure that we still cannot. There is needless urgency and recklessness in all of your recent spending of our tax dollars.


From my perspective, it seems that all of you have gone insane. I also know that I am far from alone in these feelings. Do you honestly feel that your current pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We want to put the brakes on everything that is being rushed by us and forced upon us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on hold to straighten out the mess that you are making. We will have to give up our vacations, our time spent with our children, any relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford to spend on bringing our concerns to Washington . Our president often knows all the right buzzwords like unsustainable. Well, no kidding. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the focus group cost to come up with that word? We don't want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like we're morons.


We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job we want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. You work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long because we are coming. We will be heard and we will be represented.. You think we're so busy with our lives that we will never come for you? We are the formerly silent majority, all of us who quietly work, pay taxes, obey the law, vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone... and we are now looking at you.
You have awakened us, the patriotic freedom spirit so strong and so powerful that it had been sleeping too long. You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. They may surprise you. For every one of us who will be there, there will be hundreds more that could not come. Unlike you, we have their trust. We will represent them honestly, rest assured. They will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of office.
We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. We will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will flourish. We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are coming off. We do not come in violence, but we are angry. You will represent us or you will be replaced with someone who will. There are candidates among us who will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes that you have made of our constitution.


Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian. Understand this. We don't care. Political parties are meaningless to us Patriotic Americans are willing to do right by us and our Constitution, and that is all that matters to us now. We are going to fire all of you who abuse power and seek more. It is not your power. It is ours and we want it back. We entrusted you with it and you abused it. You are dishonorable. You are dishonest. As Americans we are ashamed of you. You have brought shame to us. If you are not representing the wants and needs of your constituency loudly and consistently, in spite of the objections of your party, you will be fired. Did you hear? We no longer care about your political parties. You need to be loyal to us, not to them.. Because we will get you fired and they will not save you.
If you do or can represent me, my issues, my views, please stand up. Make your identity known. You need to make some noise about it. Speak up. I need to know who you are. If you do not speak up, you will be herded out with the rest of the sheep and we will replace the whole damn congress if need be one by one. We are coming. Are we coming for you? Who do you represent? What do you represent? Listen. Because we are coming. We the people are coming."
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:41 PM
 
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What a great letter! I think she pretty much covered the main concerns I have with my country, my government, and some of my fellow citizens. Everything she says sounds reasonable to me. She should become a VAP!

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Old 11-29-2009, 10:46 PM
 
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An unsigned forwarded spam email.
Excellent.

Get over it, you lost.
These problems didn't start on 20 Jan 09.

How much has Bush's war cost to date?
COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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An unsigned forwarded spam email.
Excellent.

Get over it, you lost.
These problems didn't start on 20 Jan 09.

How much has Bush's war cost to date?
COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War
I don't think Bush has spent one penny since January 20, 2009 although Obama will likely say that he has. Somehow he is still willing to blame Bush for everything as you seem willing to do, also.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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You lost me at "Glenn Beck"
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:55 PM
 
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This has to be the email forward of the year! Please take a few minutes to read and absorb just what this woman had to say, and then hopefully everyone will pass it to their entire mailing list, and theirs to theirs until it circles the nation! Time is short and arrogance, stupidity and ignorance abound..............

The following letter read on Glenn Beck's show, is rapidly circulating around the country. Americans everywhere identify with this 53-year-old woman. She has given us a voice. Once you read this, you will want to forward it to all of your friends...

GLENN BECK: I got a letter from a woman in Arizona . She writes an open letter to our nation's leadership:


"I am a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my life. Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican because I no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. Now I no longer feel the Republican Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. The fact is I no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington represents my views or works to pursue the issues important to me. Instead, we are burdened with Congressional Dukes and Duchesses who think they know better than the citizens they are supposed to represent.

There must be someone. Please tell me who you are. Please stand up and tell me that you are there and that you're willing to fight for our Constitution as it was written. Please stand up now.
You might ask yourself what my views and issues are that I would feel so horribly disenfranchised by both major political parties. What kind of nut-job am I? Well, these briefly are the views and issues for which I seek representation:

One, illegal immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution. P.S., I'm not a racist. This is not to be confused with legal immigration.


Two, the STIMULUS bill. I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you No, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.


Three: Czars. I want the circumvention of our constitutional checks and balances stopped immediately. Fire the czars. No more czars. Government officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling on our Constitution, and honor it.


Four, cap and trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There are many conflicting opinions and it is too soon for this radical legislation. Quit throwing our nation into politically-correct quicksand.


Five, universal healthcare. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision that will burden me, my children, and grandchildren. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night without even reading it. Slow down! Fix only what is broken -- we have the best health care system in the world -- and test any new program in one or two states first.


Six, growing government control. I want states rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. More is not better! Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real [Constitutional] obligations. Why don't you start there.


Seven, ACORN. I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of our 2010 census. I want them investigated. I also do not want mandatory escrow fees contributed to them every time on every real estate deal that closes -- how did they pull that one off? Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits and investigations. I do not trust them with taking the census with our taxpayer money. I don't trust them with any of our taxpayer money. Face up to the allegations against them and get it resolved before taxpayers get any more involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, hello. Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. Investigate.


Eight, redistribution of wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs -- and that is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person! Why do you want me to hate my employers? And what do you have against shareholders making a profit?


Nine, charitable contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.


Ten, corporate bailouts. Knock it off. Every company must sink or swim like the rest of us. If there are hard times ahead, we'll be better off just getting into it and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. (Have you ever ripped off a Band-Aid?) We will pull together. Great things happen in America under great hardship. Give us the chance to innovate. We cannot disappoint you more than you have disappointed us.


Eleven, transparency and accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please stop trying to manipulate and appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.


Twelve, unprecedented quick spending. Stop it now.
Take a breath. Listen to the people. Slow down and get some input from nonpoliticians and experts on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency. Stop speed-reading our bills into law. I am not an activist. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a terrorist, a militant or a violent person. I am a parent and a grandparent. I work. I'm busy. I am busy, and I am tired. I thought we elected competent people to take care of the business of government so that we could work, raise our families, pay our bills, have a little recreation, complain about taxes, endure our hardships, pursue our personal goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on the weekends and be responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to be the same all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave.


I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the checks and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened? You are very far off course. Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to unintelligently ramble all through a bill that you signed into law without knowing what it contained? I do not.
It is a mockery of the responsibility I have entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your arrogance. Why is it that I feel as if you would not trust me to make a single decision about my own life and how I would live it but you should expect that I should trust you with the debt that you have laid on all of us and our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would repeal it if we could. I am sure that we still cannot. There is needless urgency and recklessness in all of your recent spending of our tax dollars.


From my perspective, it seems that all of you have gone insane. I also know that I am far from alone in these feelings. Do you honestly feel that your current pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We want to put the brakes on everything that is being rushed by us and forced upon us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on hold to straighten out the mess that you are making. We will have to give up our vacations, our time spent with our children, any relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford to spend on bringing our concerns to Washington . Our president often knows all the right buzzwords like unsustainable. Well, no kidding. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the focus group cost to come up with that word? We don't want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like we're morons.


We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job we want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. You work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long because we are coming. We will be heard and we will be represented.. You think we're so busy with our lives that we will never come for you? We are the formerly silent majority, all of us who quietly work, pay taxes, obey the law, vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone... and we are now looking at you.
You have awakened us, the patriotic freedom spirit so strong and so powerful that it had been sleeping too long. You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. They may surprise you. For every one of us who will be there, there will be hundreds more that could not come. Unlike you, we have their trust. We will represent them honestly, rest assured. They will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of office.
We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. We will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will flourish. We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are coming off. We do not come in violence, but we are angry. You will represent us or you will be replaced with someone who will. There are candidates among us who will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes that you have made of our constitution.


Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian. Understand this. We don't care. Political parties are meaningless to us Patriotic Americans are willing to do right by us and our Constitution, and that is all that matters to us now. We are going to fire all of you who abuse power and seek more. It is not your power. It is ours and we want it back. We entrusted you with it and you abused it. You are dishonorable. You are dishonest. As Americans we are ashamed of you. You have brought shame to us. If you are not representing the wants and needs of your constituency loudly and consistently, in spite of the objections of your party, you will be fired. Did you hear? We no longer care about your political parties. You need to be loyal to us, not to them.. Because we will get you fired and they will not save you.
If you do or can represent me, my issues, my views, please stand up. Make your identity known. You need to make some noise about it. Speak up. I need to know who you are. If you do not speak up, you will be herded out with the rest of the sheep and we will replace the whole damn congress if need be one by one. We are coming. Are we coming for you? Who do you represent? What do you represent? Listen. Because we are coming. We the people are coming."
It is humorous how much is said here by whoever wrote this and Beck did have the woman on his program some time ago. The lefties here will continue to talk about Bush and the war and how much he spent on it but never will they argue about any of the Obama spending. This lady was mad as hell when she was on Beck and just sounded so much like she wrote it. I have to say that so lefties can attack her, not what she said. You know attack the messenger.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:07 PM
 
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Way too late to wake up now. The government has been in the hands of corporatism since earlier last century (ie. early 20th century), oh wait, you didn't know that? That's too bad, I'd say a letter like this is about..... 3 decades late.

Objections to this spam mail.

The 'czar' says this reader watches too much Fox.

"We have the best health care system in the world" means she has never experienced what its like without insurance, or have never experienced other developed nations' health care.

This letter also doesn't mention the most out-of-control spending: military-industrial-oil complex. 50%+ of Federal budget is devoted to the upkeeps of military spending on bases and equipment.

What about addressing rich-poor disparity? Or corporatocracy? The corruption?

I fully agree with 2, 4, 10, 11, and 12.

"Stop treating us like we're morons." Truth to be told, most of you kind of are, including the writer of this letter. Half of the points here are vague and some are ridiculous in terms of priority. What do you think you're going to do? Change this system by "voting" people out? Yeah, good luck with that.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:15 PM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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I don't think Bush has spent one penny since January 20, 2009 although Obama will likely say that he has. Somehow he is still willing to blame Bush for everything as you seem willing to do, also.
As a white woman who is about fifteen years younger than the author of this letter, I don't identify much with what she says. For me, the eight years preceding Obama pretty much sucked. This would be my letter, and I would be overjoyed if someone could find common ground between us. I've tried to offer a pretty much point-by-point response to what she says.

I am sick of the idea of states' rights. States' rights has meant that at least 5000 black people have been killed because of lynching, and it also meant that the Jim Crow system survived far longer than it should have. People tried to launch anti-lynching measures over and over again in the U.S., and they failed because of states' rights arguments, even under FDR. States' rights arguments have also ensured that public education has languished in the Deep South as compared to the rest of the country as documented by every possible measure.

I could care less about illegal immigration. A working class, former waiter girl, I know exactly how the service economy works in the U.S. Undocumented workers work in the back of the house, outside of restaurant patrons' view. I serve the food and charm the guests; dishwashers wash the dishes. I have no idea if my great-grandparents had papers or not when they arrived on Ellis Island in 1910, and I don't care. We made it work, and we will continue to.

The stimulus bill was an unnecessary evil born out of a lack of regulation in both the housing and investment markets. I don't like it, but it is necessary discipline. A bunch of people behaved like children, consumers and businesses alike. We are now grounded, but at least we're not starving.

A czar is just a metaphor for a person who is in charge of things. Czars were the pre-Soviet name for rulers. I really don't get why people are upset with this one.

Some form of cap and trade is probably necessary because, unfortunately, many people refuse to assume the costs of their actions and selfishly want everyone else to pay. See behaving like children above. In my lifetime, and I have lived in both rural and urban areas, our shared physical space has deteriorated. We have to stop this somehow. I'd be welcome to hear other alternatives.

I would love an ethos of less government control. Can my gay friends get married, now, please?

There are serious misunderstandings of ACORN. ACORN was arguably entrapped. Haliburton, Blackwater, and other firms have been accused of far worse, and their alleged crimes have cost into the billions. This issue is a species of red herring.

There has always been redistribution of wealth. When I trade my labor for money, redistribution of wealth is happening. The problem is that now, wealth is being concentrated into fewer and fewer hands. Working people should be upset at the oligarchs about this, and these people are not in public service.

I don't know what the letter writer means about charitable contributions. How has this category changed?

Corporate bailouts have been happening since the emergence of corporations. See above. The corporate bailouts of late 2008/early 2009 were meant to forestall a far worse crisis--a necessary evil.

I don't see how the increase in spending since November 2008 has been unprecedented. I'd like to see some numbers, scaled for today's values, to support that.

Finally, I don't see how our Constitution is really threatened today. The PATRIOT Act did more to threaten it in 2001-2002 than anything else I've seen.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:19 PM
 
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As a white woman who is about fifteen years younger than the author of this letter, I don't identify much with what she says. For me, the eight years preceding Obama pretty much sucked. This would be my letter, and I would be overjoyed if someone could find common ground between us. I've tried to offer a pretty much point-by-point response to what she says.

I am sick of the idea of states' rights. States' rights has meant that at least 5000 black people have been killed because of lynching, and it also meant that the Jim Crow system survived far longer than it should have. People tried to launch anti-lynching measures over and over again in the U.S., and they failed because of states' rights arguments, even under FDR. States' rights arguments have also ensured that public education has languished in the Deep South as compared to the rest of the country as documented by every possible measure.

I could care less about illegal immigration. A working class, former waiter girl, I know exactly how the service economy works in the U.S. Undocumented workers work in the back of the house, outside of restaurant patrons' view. I serve the food and charm the guests; dishwashers wash the dishes. I have no idea if my great-grandparents had papers or not when they arrived on Ellis Island in 1910, and I don't care. We made it work, and we will continue to.

The stimulus bill was an unnecessary evil born out of a lack of regulation in both the housing and investment markets. I don't like it, but it is necessary discipline. A bunch of people behaved like children, consumers and businesses alike. We are now grounded, but at least we're not starving.

A czar is just a metaphor for a person who is in charge of things. Czars were the pre-Soviet name for rulers. I really don't get why people are upset with this one.

Some form of cap and trade is probably necessary because, unfortunately, many people refuse to assume the costs of their actions and selfishly want everyone else to pay. See behaving like children above. In my lifetime, and I have lived in both rural and urban areas, our shared physical space has deteriorated. We have to stop this somehow. I'd be welcome to hear other alternatives.

I would love an ethos of less government control. Can my gay friends get married, now, please?

There are serious misunderstandings of ACORN. ACORN was arguably entrapped. Haliburton, Blackwater, and other firms have been accused of far worse, and their alleged crimes have cost into the billions. This issue is a species of red herring.

There has always been redistribution of wealth. When I trade my labor for money, redistribution of wealth is happening. The problem is that now, wealth is being concentrated into fewer and fewer hands. Working people should be upset at the oligarchs about this, and these people are not in public service.

I don't know what the letter writer means about charitable contributions. How has this category changed?

Corporate bailouts have been happening since the emergence of corporations. See above. The corporate bailouts of late 2008/early 2009 were meant to forestall a far worse crisis--a necessary evil.

I don't see how the increase in spending since November 2008 has been unprecedented. I'd like to see some numbers, scaled for today's values, to support that.

Finally, I don't see how our Constitution is really threatened today. The PATRIOT Act did more to threaten it in 2001-2002 than anything else I've seen.
Oops, forgot health care. I simply don't believe that the U.S. has the best health care system in the world. That is merely propaganda, because how could you ever know this unless you would have experienced several different systems? I'll take the word of several international friends who have had stories to tell. We don't have the best system in terms of measurable outcomes, and we don't have the best system in terms of qualitative information.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:20 PM
 
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in brief, stop the spending spree DC do your job and stop buying friends.
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