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1) Obama has been bashed from Day ONE he announced the closure of Gitmo. Now he gets bashed for not closing it yet? LOL Which is it Conservatives want? IF Obama had closed it 6 months ago you all would be bashing him for it left and right! hypocrisy!
2) Had Obama stopped the bailouts the economy would not be in recover right now (even earlier than the most generous estimates by economists).
If Obama had taken the Hebert Hoover route and didn't try to savage the economy, He would be bashed worse for not doing what was necessary....
3) Of course the wars are still on. What is Obama to do? Stop them? Pull out? OHHH but wait he would get bashed for that by Conservatives....
Stop ignoring Bush failed in Afghanistan and Iraq and that is why the TWO WARS ARE STILL GOING ON ALMOST 7 yrs later. Obama is trying to win an impossible fight he didnt start....
4) Super large debt? Because of Obama? LOL Please see Bush tripling of the nation's debt. Right now Obama can still work to balance the budget towards the end of his first term. All you Conservatives have are spiculation and estimates.
5) Cap n trade....wake me up when he enacts it. Until then stop the whining. Cap and trade is not in affect so why whine and cry about it?
6) NO universal health care?
Are you serious? Thats all Obama has been trying to do. What Republican President has tried to do something about healthcare since Nixon?
Hopefully it gets done soon.
Obama is so far from Bush. The fact that some Conservatives say that is evidence that you all dont know what to argue.
Obama is marxist, lenin, stalin, hitler, the boggy man, the guy who stole the Lindbergh baby...now he is BUSH????
LOL let the man lead and stop the hate. Support the President!
I especially disagree with your second point. The economy is not truly in recovery. Wall street is doing fine but not Main street. The big banks have been bailed out but the little guy is hurting. It's so ironic that the Democrats (as well as liberal republicans such as Bush and Mccain) favor the middle class bailing out the richest of the rich. This goes against all your dogma about how you care for the common person. Plus this is just the calm before the storm. All the bailouts and money printing is causing the dollar to crash..this will have huge ramifications for our future standard of living. Don't believe the propaganda this is no recovery.
I'm with the O.P. about 20 percent. I couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks of America. I mean that sincerely. If it wasn't for America and its collective charitable giving, the world would be an even less pleasant place to live. We in America in turn are never thanked by other nations no matter who's in the Oval Office. To make matters worse, Israel used to thank us, but now it has every reason to believe we're going to betray it in its most pressing time of need (the Iranian nuclear threat especially). To make matters still worse, Barack Obama bowed before the Saudi king, Abdullah, and subsequently the Japanese emperor Akihito. After witnessing these things during Obama's first 10 months in office, how, exactly would a President Sarah Palin do worse? Enough of Obama's chump change already!
I think the best moments in Bush's presidency took place when he nominated John Roberts and Samuel Alito to be on the Supreme Court. But I'm still a bit baffled why he didn't put Antonin Scalia in the Chief Justice position when William Rehnquist had to resign. Why John Roberts, the Court's then-newest member? Other great moments: the capture of Saddam Hussein, his execution, and Bush's signing of the partial-birth abortion ban.
OK, so how's that for undiluted neoconservatism? But wait! I never "worshipped" Bush, and found much during his presidency to be very dismaying. He made no effort to reign in runaway federal spending, not vetoing even one bill (spending or otherwise) until many years into his time in office. He chose Paul O'Neill as his treasury secretary--a complete disaster. After the outstanding John ******** resigned as Attorney General, Bush chose his corrupt friend Alberto Gonzales to be his successor. His choice for Transportation Secretary, Norman Mineta of California, was ineffective. Bush made no effort to abolish any cabinet departments. He should have never gone along with the taxpayer bailout of banks near the end of his second term. He either would not or could not effectively articulate why we needed to send our troops to Iraq. America did nothing to become less dependent on foreign countries for our energy needs during Bush's eight years.
But having said all this, can the O.P. honestly say that he/she has never, ever seen a political cartoon of Bush? Especially by Mike Luckovich? The huge ears? Making Bush look like he's more dumb than SpongeBob SquarePant's best friend Patrick? Don't pretend that it's only Obama on the receiving end!
1) Obama has been bashed from the Day he announced the closure of Gitmo. Now he gets bashed for not closing it yet? LOL Which is it Conservatives want?
2) Had Obama stopped the bailouts the economy would not be in recover right now (even earlier than the most generous estimates.
If Obama had taken the Hebert Hoover route and didn't try to savage the economy. He would be bashed worse!
3) Of course the wars are still on. What is Obama to do? Stop them? Pull out? OHHH but wait he would get bashed for that by Conservatives....
Stop ignoring Bush failed in Afghanistan and Iraq and that is why the TWO WARS ARE STILL GOING ON ALMOST 7 yrs later
4) Super large debt? Because of Obama? LOL Please see Bush tripling of the nation's debt. Right now Obama can still work to balance the budget towards the end of his first term.
5) Cap n trade....wake me up when he enacts it. Until then stop the whining. Cap and trade is not in affect so why whine and cry about it?
6) NO universal health care?
Are you serious? Thats all Obama has been trying to do. What Republican President has tried to do something about healthcare since Nixon?
Hopefully it gets done soon.
Obama is so far from Bush. The fact that some Conservatives say that is evidence that you all dont know what to argue.
Obama is marxist, lenin, stalin, hitler, the boggy man, the guy who stole the Lindbergh baby...now he is BUSH????
LOL let the man lead and stop the hate. Support the President!
1. Close it, very simple, pack up and leave gitmo.
2. The Bush bailout of October 2008 was a lie. The stimulus plan was a POS too. It didn't stop the financial bleeding, it's still going on.
3. Again, pack up and leave. There's no business being in Afg or Iraq. Oh yeah, and cut down the military bases and war spending as well.
4. Debt is not ok, debt is not ok under Bush or Obama, Clinton, or Reagan, or any friggin' president. You're being a hypocrite here.
6. Yes serious, universal health care to lower cost, the money can be taken from all the war spending overseas.
Obama is not far from Bush. While most mindless conservative pundits would argue Obama is marxist, lenin, stalin, or hitler, or mixed up communism, fascism, and socialism together. They're incorrect, the current administration is in a long line of administrations beholden to the corporatocracy of military-industrial-oil complex since the days of Truman administration. This administration is as dispicable as BushII, Clinton, Bush I, and Reagan, in terms of foreign policy, finance, and social policies. The proper term for the dealing of US gov't for the past 2 years can be summed up as corporate fascism, Obama is just a change of face, policies hasn't changed.
Well hussein obama is going to need all the sheep he can gather because he is sliding in the polls daily.
Two words! Fear tactics!
You can get people scared of Mother Theresa (when she was alive) if you lied about her enough and painted her as the downfall America.
Most ppl are uninformed idiots! (Sorry mods if thats out of line)
And can't tell you anything outside of the hate that limbaugh, beck and hannity spew everyday!
****By the way where was their hatred and outrage the last 8 years during Bush?****
I want to see what Obama does. HE has more issues to deal with coming in than any other President in recent memory. I truly believe he wants to do the right thing.
Well hussein obama is going to need all the sheep he can gather because he is sliding in the polls daily.
Which in turn could have tremendous ramifications for the general election in 2010. How will Republicans respond to Obama's slide in the polls? Will they be content to "run out the clock" and not articulate ideas that have been proven to work? Like across-the-board tax cuts enacted by JFK and Reagan, leading to two big economic boom times? Will Republicans actually try to do something to keep Social Security and Medicare from flying totally off the cliff, leaving Generation Y and future generations under a Mount Everest of crushing debt, and likely subservience to China?
The 2010 races are the Republicans' to lose at the rate Obama's going....
Obama has not had much time to be a president, but since before he even started there were Obama haters. I'm talking about people who practically worshiped Bush, but will jump on every petty excuse to criticize Obama.
Obama may not be perfect, but you have to admit he is nowhere near as bad as Bush was. At the very least, he has so far gone two months longer than Bush has without having a major terrorist attack in the US, and he has worked hard to repair the crippled reputation the US had with the world because of Bush. He's got a long way to go, but hey, at least he's not Bush!
But the 'anti-Obama for the sake of anti-Obama' crowd obviously has no real argument, with their birther and deather arguments, fascism=socialism=communism=Obama fallacies, clown face Obama pictures and death threat bible verses, when they can't even look past the GOP blinders to see that Bush was a mistake. When/if they do, maybe they will be able to start thinking for themselves to make their own opinions about reality based on reason, and when that happens I will listen (maybe not agree, but at least listen).
Ok, I'll play.
First, while I will agree with you that Obama hasn't had much time to be president, that's not to say he hasn't gotten everything he has asked for from the Congress including a blind eye to his extra-Constitutional activities.
Comparing Bush to Obama as you do, I think you are missing the greater point. Obama is a political animal who out performed the McCain/Palin campaign hands down, but having accomplished what he wanted by winning the election, he now seems unclear as to his actual purpose for having done so. You see, Obama is not now, nor has he ever been a leader. Even as a community organizer, he was simply pursuing the goals of the organization for which he worked. Had he the makings of a leader within him, he would already have a track record for leadership that likely would include executive experience. From my experience, leaders are never made; they are born. A leader will always lead and a follower will always follow. Obama is a follower, and as such, he seeks to follow.
The people who feel that all our differences should be settled with the permission and blessing of the UN don't see America as exceptional. They fail to see why we need to be the world's policeman. They think it arrogant of us to take our own self-defense and self-preservation into our own hands and act unilaterally.They concern themselves with the opinions of once great nations that have accepted their own unexceptionalism a long, long time ago and also insist we do the same. This model of unexceptionalism is a perfect fit for a follower of Obama's caliber. It provides an easy exit for a person unfamiliar and uncomfortable with the lonely world of the leader. America being just another nation allows him the freedom to be indecisive and unsure. He can always look to other nations for the guidance he requires. Better yet, he can hold a summit. He's good at that. No need to risk being wrong when the accountability reserved for a leader can be dispersed among numerous co-equals.
The blaming will begin very soon. I don't mean the blaming of Bush Jr. That's old news. I mean the blaming of Congress, the states, and ultimately, the American people for the consequences of unwise policies gone wrong. We already see the blame shifting with respect to the Afghan war. An unpopular war tax is presently being floated as a means to shift accountability for decisions made about the future war policy to the American people who are certain to reject a new tax. In this way Obama absolves himself from a politically damaging decision, and, more to the point, side steps the demands of leadership.
In this I will agree with you that Obama is not Bush. And while I cannot defend every action of Bush, he was exactly what was needed at a very dark time in our history. Recessions and wars make for unpopular presidents, but history tends to be kind to those put purpose before political aims. Truman left office a failed president, but the truth is he saved millions of lives doing something unspeakable in ordinary times. He didn't burden others with the decision or blame his predecessor. He took the lumps his office required. Bush did as much and has both the high and low approval ratings to prove it.
Today we have rising unemployment and a completely failed 788 billion dollar "stimulus" that is driving Obama's approval numbers down faster than any president in history. But instead of coming clean and admitting his failure, he reminds us that he inherited this economy ad nauseum. That isn't leadership and no one is inspired by blame shifting. Reagan inherited a far worse economy, but I can't remember him ever blaming anyone else for the poor economy once in office. He, like Truman and Kennedy, accepted what the office demanded of him without shifting blame to others when things went wrong.
I expect a Huckabee or Gingrich to have little trouble cleaning Obama's clock in the 2012 election since by then Americans will realize the mistake they've made in electing a follower to the presidency. Certainly they are already coming to this conclusion.
Gitmo is still open.
Continuation of bank bailout (and auto).
Wars is still on, big time.
Super large debt.
Cap n trade.
No universal health care.
As far as I'm concerned, Obama isn't far off from Bush, hell the same Treasury Sec worked under Paulson during Bush and the same Defense Secretary of Bush. Though it is ironic how similar Obama is to Bush, the righties are still bashing Obama.
You changed the party and believe that you voted out the government, but the government remains the same and walks the same path of US hegemony since Truman.
I'm embarrassed to admit that I forgot to include in my previous post former President Bush's apparent complete disregard for controlling our southern border, and his refusal to pardon the border patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean (he did commute their prison sentences just before leaving office).
Good post, MoMonkey! But after his endorsement of Dede Scozzafava for Congress from New York's 23rd District, and his kowtowing to the Democrat Left while Speaker of the House, I've totally gone sour on Newt Gingrich. Isn't it something, though, how Obama continues to try saying, "I inherited this problem," not to mention his love for the word "unprecedented" (The White House's unprecedented use of 'unprecedented' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091125/pl_politico/29896 - broken link)).
Piling on another $1.5 trillion to our national debt after less than a year in office? Unprecedented.
"In an op-ed piece by Rep. Virginia Foxx, the 5th District congresswoman said Obama "produced more czars in his first three months in office than the Russian Romanov Dynasty managed to produce in more than three centuries." (McHenry, Foxx question czar count) Obama's czar-studded administration is unprecedented! Talk about getting czarred and feathered!
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But wait! I never "worshipped" Bush, and found much during his presidency to be very dismaying. He made no effort to reign in runaway federal spending, not vetoing even one bill (spending or otherwise) until many years into his time in office. He chose Paul O'Neill as his treasury secretary--a complete disaster. After the outstanding John ******** resigned as Attorney General, Bush chose his corrupt friend Alberto Gonzales to be his successor. His choice for Transportation Secretary, Norman Mineta of California, was ineffective. Bush made no effort to abolish any cabinet departments. He should have never gone along with the taxpayer bailout of banks near the end of his second term. He either would not or could not effectively articulate why we needed to send our troops to Iraq. America did nothing to become less dependent on foreign countries for our energy needs during Bush's eight years.
