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Old 12-06-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: City of Central
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Another troll thread ...
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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rape is already a crime, or is it something else to al franken?
No kidding. However, Halliburton tried to argue that the contract which forced every dispute go to an Arbitrator because of the contract, which included rape cases. Fraken's Amendment simply states that if you are going to do business with the United States Government you can not have such language in your contracts.

Fraken's Amendment actually partially comes from the 5th circuit court's ruling on this subject. However, it took several years of court battles for the 5th circuit court to rule the way they did, as well as the fact that the 5th circuit court's ruling is only binding in the court's jurisdiction. Other jurisdictions's might take the 5th circuit courts ruling into consideration, but they are not forced to. Fraken's Amendment was basically to make the 5th district court's ruling (giving the ability to proceed with the case) settled national law, so rape victims do not have to go through several years worth of court battles just to even get their case heard, As well as eliminating the strong arm tactics which forces many other victims into Arbitration.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default GOP Senators angry at Franken for exposing them as pro-rape


To be honest, I seriously doubt that they're the least bit concerned about the rape aspect. Their 19 year old daughters will never be placed in a position to accept employment with war contractors in the middle east where they'll be drugged and gang-raped. That only happens to "little people." And "little people" are of no concern to these guys. They just want to make certain the war profiteers who fill their campaign chests maintain immunity from liability.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Am I the only one who finds it amazing that NOT ONE liberal here has called for the rapist to go to jail? The ONLY concern they have is if the victim is getting paid.
Perhaps that's because the liberals are addressing the topic and you're the only one who wants to change to something else.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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so if a employee rapes someone, then the employer is to blame, that is what I am garnering from this statement.

how quaint of the you to suggest that.


If the employer is warned about harassment and other acts and fails to respond they do have some type of liability, which is exactly what happened in this case. I think a fair comparison is the Catholic Church's reaction to some of the sexual abuse allegations on Priests. They were made aware of various allegations and failed to act on it, its the same with Halliburton. Numerous allegations were made, they didn't make any changes, ignored the allegations, and a woman was raped (and she was FAR from the only one).
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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so if a employee rapes someone, then the employer is to blame, that is what I am garnering from this statement.

how quaint of the you to suggest that.
The employer can no longer cover up the rape with a circus arbitration.

The employer can no longer provide opportunities for sexual discrimination.

The employer can no longer deny the victim their rights as an US citizen.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Am I the only one who finds it amazing that NOT ONE liberal here has called for the rapist to go to jail? The ONLY concern they have is if the victim is getting paid.
I find it amazing that you believe NOT ONE liberal wants the rapist to go to jail!
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Federal judge rules Iraq 'gang-rape victim' can seek trial in US - Times Online

So now that you'll admit there was no need for the bill, maybe you'll stop mouthing off about who's PRO RAPE, making yourself appear foolish..
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The decision has opened the door for other American women who have reported sexual assaults in similar circumstances to challenge clauses in their employment contracts restricting such claims to private arbitration and keeping them out of court.

It comes at a time when the US Congress is examining whether the Government is adequately protecting contractors who allege sexual assault.
The amendment would guarantee the victims right to a trial thereby abolishing the need to go to court to fight for the right for a court hearing.
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Old 12-06-2009, 04:48 PM
 
Location: stairway to heaven
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Franken should have remained a not very good comedian. Now he is a not very good joke.
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Franken should have remained a not very good comedian. Now he is a not very good joke.
So you are unhappy that Franken wants to protect victims rights who have been raped?
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