Church goes to far!! Tells children that Santa isn't coming, Jesus is!! (drugs, speech)

[chielgirl]

Originally Posted by Chatteress

There is a deeper meaning to Christmas and parents need to educate their children.

I agree about the First Amendment rights of the church.

The church is not a person so it shares no first amendment rights.

The meaning of xmas is that it was stolen from the belief systems that passed before it and hijacked for its own use.

I guess you tell your kids another lie that cannot be proven, that there's a god thing. If you can't prove the god thing, how can you believe that you have the authority to make comments about other myths?

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

The meaning of xmas?

Ah, there is / was a slight spelling error - I know it was inadvertant. It should read, .....The meaning of CHRISTmas.

Hope you don't mind the correction ..

[Theliberalvoice]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

The meaning of xmas is that it was stolen from the belief systems that passed before it and hijacked for its own use.

Christmas is a stolen fraud holiday. There is much blood to its name.

I know the story of Christmas and how Pagans were violently murdered by Christians to take over their religion and force them to convert.

Not very nice at all or very Christ like. I hear this Jesus Christ fellow was a nice very person and loving and caring. I have much respect for him.

[KarmaPhx]

Jesus was born in the summer, so the whole idea of Christmas is a little whack to begin with.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by KarmaPhx

Jesus was born in the summer, so the whole idea of Christmas is a little whack to begin with.

Ah - you could not even have CHRISTmas unless Jesus Christ was born!

And, although born in summer, it took months for the 3 wisemen to get to the stable - and the holiday represents that -

The date is representative - not exact.

[KarmaPhx]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Ah - you could not even have CHRISTmas unless Jesus Christ was born!

And, although born in summer, it took months for the 3 wisemen to get to the stable - and the holiday represents that -

The date is representative - not exact.

Says the bible, which is just a fictious, non-factual book.

Christmas today, at least for kids, is 100% about presents.

[janelle144]

[SIZE=3]Christmas Beginnings [/SIZE]


Religious historians attribute Dec. 25th being designated as Christmas to Pope Julius I, sometime in the 4th century A.D. It was set to coincide with the Roman Winter Festivals.
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• That is the most basic, but actually the most complex, question for a Christmas FAQ, I suppose!

The truth is complicated, and it depends upon what tradition you're referring to as "Christmas." "Christmas" as "Christ's Mass," the celebration of Christ's birthday, originated when the Roman Catholic Church decided to concecrate pagan traditions. The Church wanted to convert the pagans of Europe to Christianity, and as a way of doing so, they established a Christian religious meaning to the important and popular celebration of the winter solstice.

They chose the birth of Christ because it echoed pagan attributes of the holiday, which celebrated, amongst other things, the rebirth of the Sun. ["rebirth of Sun"/"birth of Son," get it?]. The truth is that, before then, Christians didn't really celebrate Christ's birth; it was his death and resurrection that were supremely important, and his borth was a minor point without a fixed celebration.

It's certain that Jesus ''wasn't'' born on December 25. In fact, the details in the Bible clearly point to his being born in the spring. Placing the holiday of December 25 was a direct attempt to co-opt solstice traditions.
Christmas as a ''modern'' celebration, including most of the things we associate with it (Santa Claus, gift-giving, carols, egg nog, etc.), were a Victorian invention. A number of writers and politicians, including Clement C. Moore ("The Night Before Christmas"), popularized Christmas as a family tradition, in part to supplant undesirable older traditions that had become part of Christmas (including "misrule" traditions we now associate with Halloween!).

For a detailed and fascinating account of the Victorian Christmas invention, read Stephen Nissenbaum's excellent "The Battle For Christmas."

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by KarmaPhx

Says the bible, which is just a fictious, non-factual book.

Christmas today, at least for kids, is 100% about presents.

Without getting into a debate - the bible is also classified as historical - with historians using the bible to verify certain events.

And while Santa and gifts are certainly a fun part of CHRISTmas, many families also teach their children that it is NOT all about Presents.

We know a few families who do different things on Christmas like going to a local "soup kitchen" to help serve Christmas dinner. Or, going to a Hospital and bringing little gifts to patients - things like this.

[artsyguy]

At least they are letting their kids understand that Santa is a lot of BS nonsense.

Originally Posted by Chango

Stupid people who let their kids believe in santa. Why don't they teach their kids to dance theirselves into a trance with rattlesnakes in their hands, babble incoherently and then go into conniption fits on the floor like normal people.

[old_cold]

Poor guy....probably just frustrated
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