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Old 12-08-2009, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Would you support her getting an abortion if she decided she wanted one (yes, it's your baby)?
Its hard for me to put myself in that spot since I am a woman but I don't think I could be supportive.

My stance on abortion is that I think it has to be legal however its not something I could do myself nor could I be supportive to someone else doing it unless there were severe medical problems involved with either the Mother or the baby.

There is always the possibility that she would be willing to have the baby and let the man have it and raise it and the two separate but it depends on how badly the man wants the child.

That would be a tragic thing to happen to a couple.

I don't see why a woman can't take 9 months out of her life to give the baby a chance to live and let someone else raise the baby, whether it be the Father on his own or in general give it up for adoption.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:15 AM
 
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I find your intolerance of those who you disagree with astounding..
Wait that can't be she's a liberal, they tolerate everyone. As long as you agree with them.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Southern Maryland
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Okay, what I would really like to know is how a pro choice man faced with this scenario could possibly want to continue to be pro-choice, given his own circumstances? Why would he want to make that legally possible for other men (and women) to go through? I mean, if you wouldn't want your own flesh and blood having its life sucked away, why would you advocate for other lives to be thrown down the drain?
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I'm sorry but do you not see the hypocracy in charging a person with double murder if they kill a pregnant woman but if the woman kills the child it's ok?
No, one is by choice.
I get to choose what I do with my body.
You don't get to choose what I do with my body.

I don't like the law that charges someone with the murder of a non-viable fetus.

Don't want an abortion, don't have one.
But if you want to continue a pregnancy and someone takes it from you (like men kicking their partners in the stomach to cause a miscarriage) then it is theft.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:27 AM
 
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I don't see why a woman can't take 9 months out of her life to give the baby a chance to live and let someone else raise the baby, whether it be the Father on his own or in general give it up for adoption.
I don't see why a woman should be forced to give up 9 months of her life when she doesn't want to do so.
It's her call, no one else's.
Sounds pretty anti-choice to me.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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men that are pro choice think the woman has the ultimate decision, being that it is her body. if the man wanted a child then as another poster suggested it would be something the couple would come to terms with before getting pregnant. if they got pregnant by accident and his wish was for her to take the baby to term and the woman wanted to abort, I am sure he would feel badly. however if he was pro choice he again would know that it really is a woman's choice. "your own flesh and blood" is a clump of cells unable to live outside the womb.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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Okay, what I would really like to know is how a pro choice man faced with this scenario could possibly want to continue to be pro-choice, given his own circumstances? Why would he want to make that legally possible for other men (and women) to go through? I mean, if you wouldn't want your own flesh and blood having its life sucked away, why would you advocate for other lives to be thrown down the drain?
Oh please, quit trolling.
Everyone is entitled to their own feelings and opinions.
You don't get to make decisions for others as you don't want others to make decisions for you.
I know of couples who decided together to abort.
You're not part of their lives, you don't know their reasoning, and it's none of your business.
Let people do as they choose and mind your own business.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:30 AM
 
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No, one is by choice.
I get to choose what I do with my body.
You don't get to choose what I do with my body.

I don't like the law that charges someone with the murder of a non-viable fetus.

Don't want an abortion, don't have one.
But if you want to continue a pregnancy and someone takes it from you (like men kicking their partners in the stomach to cause a miscarriage) then it is theft.
How do you know the fetus in non-viable? Who makes that decision? Also there are several areas where you do not choose what to do with your body, mandatory vaccinations is an example.

The idea that a woman is in total control of someones future and can do what she pleases with it regardless of outcome but after the child passes a few inches(depending on which route is chosen) the male is almost completely responsible is mind blowing.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:30 AM
 
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I don't see why a woman should be forced to give up 9 months of her life when she doesn't want to do so.
It's her call, no one else's.
Sounds pretty anti-choice to me.
Maybe if she didnt want to give up 9 months of her life, she should have done what others have suggested, dont sleep with people and get pregnant..

I'm all for choice, and I think everyone should have a vote.. Including the child..
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:35 AM
 
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How do you know the fetus in non-viable? Who makes that decision? Also there are several areas where you do not choose what to do with your body, mandatory vaccinations is an example.

The idea that a woman is in total control of someones future and can do what she pleases with it regardless of outcome but after the child passes a few inches(depending on which route is chosen) the male is almost completely responsible is mind blowing.
Try reading some medical books.
Viability is between 23-24 weeks.
Until then it cannot live on its own outside of the womb or without heroic measures.
Look up viable on m-w.com.
It's not a someone until it's viable.
Yes, it's a woman's right to choose.
You don't get to choose for me or for any other woman.

When you can get pregnant, then you can decide what to do, until then, not so much.
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