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I hope you realize the US taxpayers pay for Medicare and it's bankrupting the country.
In addition, the fees collected by medicare are often times 33% of what private insurance pays. Many providers operate barely at a break even point to provide services to medicare patients. Lets see private insurance will pay $600 for a medical procedure. Medicare will pay $200. You do realize the fees collected need to pay for overhead such as nurses, techs, even janitor services.
What if everyone was on a government subsidized insurance like medicare. Well lets see our VA hospital system. Have you been to a VA hospital? It's highly inefficiency. Surgical cases are delayed time after time. Why? Because there's no incentive to do the cases. Unless it's a true emergency (which most cases aren't'), cases will get backed up.
Wrong. 2 wars are bankrupting this country, along with wall street bankers. Forget the janitor fees, take the trash out yourself.
The past administration borrowing from social security to fund the wars, cutting taxes for the top percentage of America, and abuses by Government contractors are killing us, not medicare, not social security, it's poor management, and that was prevalent pre- jan. 20, 2009.
Yuo cannot cut taxes and expect to execute even one winning war properly.
US taxpayers aren't bankrupting anything.
Some people will have no problem retiring at age 55, and forcing two or three families, struggling to make it from paycheck to paycheck, to pay for their Medicare for ten years, as if they are somehow entitled to it.
The proposal is for people to PAY INTO Medicare, just like they would pay for a private insurance policy. This is not the same as the small payments required for Medicare once you are past 65. I read a figure that the cost would be in the area of $7500/yr, That is $625/mo. This would be a boon for a lot of laid off people in their late 50s/60s, whose actual chances of finding work again are slim to none.
The proposal is for people to PAY INTO Medicare, just like they would pay for a private insurance policy. This is not the same as the small payments required for Medicare once you are past 65. I read a figure that the cost would be in the area of $7500/yr, That is $625/mo. This would be a boon for a lot of laid off people in their late 50s/60s, whose actual chances of finding work again are slim to none.
You really think the Fed govt would make people by up to $7500 per year per person on health premiums for Medicare?
No way. They will add federal subsidies (IE our taxpayer money) on a sliding scale basis. The feds will subsidize those 55-64 would want to "buy into the medicare program". If they meet certain income limits, the feds will reduce the premiums they will have to pay.
Wrong. 2 wars are bankrupting this country, along with wall street bankers. Forget the janitor fees, take the trash out yourself.
The past administration borrowing from social security to fund the wars, cutting taxes for the top percentage of America, and abuses by Government contractors are killing us, not medicare, not social security, it's poor management, and that was prevalent pre- jan. 20, 2009.
Yuo cannot cut taxes and expect to execute even one winning war properly.
US taxpayers aren't bankrupting anything.
Then explain why in Obamas budget he will spend more on LOSERS on WELFARE in 2010 then the entire Iraq War cost???
Look the US Senate is trying to compromise on the health bill. But they are just idiots.
Not only are they going to bankrupt Medicare by expanding it to age 55 year old for those without insurance but as a consequence they will accelerate the bankruptcy of the SSN program.
Think about this:
The reason most Americans don't retire and take early SSN benefits at age 62 is that they don't qualify for medicare until age 65.
Now the proposal in the US Senate will allow people as young as 55 without insurance to be enrolled in the medicare program. This will add a tremendous amount of pressure on the funding of medicare. How exactly are they going to pay for that?
That's issue number 1.
But the consequence of issue 1 is that they will also create major issue number 2. That is more and more people will be enticed to take early retirement at age 62 to start collecting SSN. Sure the payments will be reduced but one of the main reasons for delaying SSN until 65 (67 for younger workers) is that they don't qualify for medicare.
So you bankrupt Medicare PLUS you bankrupt SSN.
And yes, I know some disabled people qualify for medicare at much younger ages but that population won't open the floodgates as much as lower medicare eligibility.
Plus, doctors must be just thrilled (not) that they will have so many more patients on Medicare, so they will be reimbursed less. And then, after this eventually kicks in, they'll lower the age to 50, then 45, then 40 and keep going until everyone gets their medical care from the government, what Obama originally wanted.
I'm telling all 2012 presidential non-Democrat candidates. You better be able to articulate how you are going to undo the Obama mess in every arena if you are elected.
They'll pay for it just like they do now...and I will qualify...
It's a GREAT idea!!!!
Didja know that for every $100 Medicare spends, 98 goes to PATIENT care....as opposed to private insurance ...for every $100 ...98 goes to the administration...and 2 to patient care...like that????
YES I get Medicare!!!!!
Most interesting statement can you cite a source for this information I would love to read through it
For those individuals who have lost their job or buy private insurance it may help them reduce costs depending on the premium costs. I would expect some people over age 55 who were working at menial jobs just for the health insurance to opt for early SS benefits and paying for their insurance if the premiums are low enough.
The devil is in the details if this plan is good for the country. It will depend primarily on how much subsidizing will be done on the premium. An individual policy for someone in that age group should be around 600 to 700 per month.
The second question is how many people will opt for this and its affect on those who already are on Medicare. Remember a half trillion dollars is being cut from Medicare, and now we'll be adding even more people to the Medicare rolls. More people fighting over a smaller "pie" means more restrictions on care.
We'll just have to wait for the specifics of this plan to be announced.
Why yes, I am a medical professional who has worked at VA in the midwest and the east coast. Last time I stepped into a VA was November 2009. Is that recent enough for you.
Granted, not all VAs are the same. Some are better than others. But the majority of them are highly inefficient.
Try getting any work/procedures done at a VA after 3PM.
Why would you want to lie like this. I have been in several VA facilities, certainly not all, neither have you. Even though they have a tremendous work load, they are surprisingly efficient. They are continuing to work on improving the System. Another good thing is that because the System is nationwide, when improvements are made they get propagated thru the system very rapidly. I know FOX reports it is in shambles, however there are so somewhat more credible evaluations. Here's one from the CBO. The Health Care System for Veterans: An Interim Report
There is always room to improve and the VA is always doing that, and because it is a single entity, it is much easier to make those improvements. It would be, and is, very difficult to do that with the myriad of private and completely separate institutions of our current system.
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