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Old 12-10-2009, 11:16 AM
 
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I don't usually like to give these non-issues too much attention, but since i don't watch tv, all i have seen lately is the Tiger Woods issue on the internet.

Woods, proved he is a human being no different than the rest of us.

The real question should not center around Tiger's "cheating heart," but on whether the act of "marriage" and coupling is a natural behavior for the human being?


Would human beings without legislation, that makes it advantageous to get married and stay coupled to one individual for long periods of time engage in this behavior if they were "free people?"

Is the real reason we have such a high divorce rate, due to the fact, that through society and propaganda, we have attempted to force an unnatural union between human beings that is not in accords with the natural law of human beings?

Clearly for some portion of the population marriage and long term coupling works, but the devastation, stress, humiliation, guilt, and all of the other assorted legislative stresses, that come from legal coupling, seem to outweigh a lot of the benefits?

When Human Beings seek to tamper with the natural moral order, it seems to almost always do much more harm then good. Does anyone else feel this way?

Is legislation and societal propaganda that make marriage profitable to engage in the real problem?

(by profitable i mean society treats you with more respect, there of financial laws that are at your benefit, and there are a number of overall positive incentives done via legislation to make long term coupling a reality, that most would like to engage in)
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Frankly I am sick of hearing about it and seeing it splashed on every front page across the country.
This is an issue between Tiger & his wife.

As far as "the act of "marriage" and coupling is a natural behavior for the human being?"


There are many many married couples who have never cheated on each other..it works for some and for some it doesn't
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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I think most married men secretly envy Tiger wishing they could have (secret affairs) with all those beautiful women. The average Joe does not have a chance. Maybe that's a good thing.
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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I don't usually like to give these non-issues too much attention, but since i don't watch tv, all i have seen lately is the Tiger Woods issue on the internet.

Woods, proved he is a human being no different than the rest of us.

The real question should not center around Tiger's "cheating heart," but on whether the act of "marriage" and coupling is a natural behavior for the human being?


Would human beings without legislation, that makes it advantageous to get married and stay coupled to one individual for long periods of time engage in this behavior if they were "free people?"

Is the real reason we have such a high divorce rate, due to the fact, that through society and propaganda, we have attempted to force an unnatural union between human beings that is not in accords with the natural law of human beings?

Clearly for some portion of the population marriage and long term coupling works, but the devastation, stress, humiliation, guilt, and all of the other assorted legislative stresses, that come from legal coupling, seem to outweigh a lot of the benefits?

When Human Beings seek to tamper with the natural moral order, it seems to almost always do much more harm then good. Does anyone else feel this way?

Is legislation and societal propaganda that make marriage profitable to engage in the real problem?

(by profitable i mean society treats you with more respect, there of financial laws that are at your benefit, and there are a number of overall positive incentives done via legislation to make long term coupling a reality, that most would like to engage in)

The BIG problem, that non-golfers do not understand, is that golf is a game of integrity and honesty and his behavior has violated the basic premise of the game. Being called a "cheater" in golf is the very worst thing that someone can be. It is accepted to be a little brash, arrogant, or aloof, but if one is a cheater, they are out of the club.

1. Tiger's off the course behavior is a confirmation of less than ethical behavior which violates the premise of the game and therefore his conduct will be viewed with increased suspicion in the future, both on and off the course. Golf is a game of personal honor- Tiger's betrayal of his wife multiple times detracts from that image.

2. The tradition of golfers has been the characters of Jones, Sneed, Hogan, Nicklaus, and Palmer- all family men who held up in thier private lives the public image they portrayed. Only Walter Hagen was given a pass on his behavior, as he was unmarried during his raucus times.

3. Golf is played, viewed, and supported by individuals and buisnesses that do not condone "ghetto" type behavior. That may be perfectly fine for the NBA, but does not play well on the PGA.


My son has a Tiger Woods autographed photo from his US Amatuer victory 15 years ago at Pumpkin Ridge. He took it down from the wall of his bedroom and put it in the closet. Photos of Nicklaus and Palmer remain up.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:01 PM
 
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If Tiger Woods wanted to fool around he had no business getting married!
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:11 PM
 
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Tiger smiles in the most conceded, insincere way it's almost scarey. He reminds me of judge Sonia Maijor.
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:10 AM
 
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I don't usually like to give these non-issues too much attention, but since i don't watch tv, all i have seen lately is the Tiger Woods issue on the internet.

Woods, proved he is a human being no different than the rest of us.

The real question should not center around Tiger's "cheating heart," but on whether the act of "marriage" and coupling is a natural behavior for the human being?


Would human beings without legislation, that makes it advantageous to get married and stay coupled to one individual for long periods of time engage in this behavior if they were "free people?"

Is the real reason we have such a high divorce rate, due to the fact, that through society and propaganda, we have attempted to force an unnatural union between human beings that is not in accords with the natural law of human beings?

Clearly for some portion of the population marriage and long term coupling works, but the devastation, stress, humiliation, guilt, and all of the other assorted legislative stresses, that come from legal coupling, seem to outweigh a lot of the benefits?

When Human Beings seek to tamper with the natural moral order, it seems to almost always do much more harm then good. Does anyone else feel this way?

Is legislation and societal propaganda that make marriage profitable to engage in the real problem?

(by profitable i mean society treats you with more respect, there of financial laws that are at your benefit, and there are a number of overall positive incentives done via legislation to make long term coupling a reality, that most would like to engage in)
I honestly feel sad for you, because you apparently will never know the amazing amount of happiness that millions and millions of us find with our wives/husbands. There's nothing unnatural about it. Some are meant to be married, some not. But those of us that find true love with our spouse never regret it.

Cheating isn't natural human behavior. It's selfishness. Marriage isn't about sex. The sex can be great, but it's so much deeper than that. Those out for just sex can't understand.
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:27 AM
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I think most married men secretly envy Tiger wishing they could have (secret affairs) with all those beautiful women. The average Joe does not have a chance. Maybe that's a good thing.
If I had Tiger's money , jet and golf talent, I would take a vow of celebacy ....no lie
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:47 AM
 
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Ah, the argument of nature over socialization...
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Old 12-19-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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1) What led to such increased divorce rates is feminism and individualism, two bold social trends of the last 50 years.
2) Humans by nature are social animals. For millennia we lived in extended families (or clans) with one leading male, several females and their children. Other social mammals benefit from this formula, which provides best protection for future generations.
3) Deep economic and social reforms in the last century broke away with this old order, but failed to provide an alternative. Today the social chaos rules. Maybe we are in a transitional period, but before we get to another stable social order, children suffer most in this situation.
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