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Old 12-13-2009, 12:11 AM
 
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I have been amazed at how many things you have said in this thread I have agreed with. However when you said that we lose everything our founders fought for if we go along with Beck you are wrong. I listen to Beck every day and just can't find him telling lies the past week. We have MediaMatters and ThinkProgress making all these statements about Beck from months ago but they don't seem to mention what he says now. Also, they take him out of context all the time and accuse him of that very thing. How is it that one can do that to another and it is wrong for the other to do that? Just wondering.
Well, I'm quite an agreeable chap! And, frankly, so are you. I enjoy our banter back and forth and your demonstrated intelligence.

So, just to clarify, you request regularly that people point out when Beck is lying. You get a whole litany of them on this thread and now decide to ignore things that happened only a few months ago?

In addition, any facts revealed by unbiased or left-leaning sources are irrelevant, even though they are facts? Why would Fox News report that one of its biggest cash cows is a scam artist and a liar? What would they gain from that?

It's important to get information from all sources. I would never rely on liberal sources to tell me the truth and you shouldn't rely on conservative ones.

Hope you're having a wonderful weekend!
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Old 12-13-2009, 12:33 AM
 
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Radicals dislike Beck!
Far left Liberals will always knock conservatives
and make themselves look bad afterward.
I think Beck is great and never miss a show.
He is almost as good as Reilly...
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Old 12-13-2009, 06:08 AM
 
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Talking What's up in Dittoworld today?

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I think you have your directions reversed but then we don't agree about much where politics are concerned.

Yeah. I'm part of the "reality-based community." We tend to disagree with the residents of Dittoland.

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Old 12-13-2009, 07:32 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Kid - Beck's getting paid as a sponsor for a company that sells gold. Beck's promoting the purchase of gold as part of his daily "the world's coming to and end" fearfest. The price of gold increases when people are scared and feel unstable.

Is it illegal? No. But it's certainly disingenuous and misleading, forcing any reasonable person to question the core motivations of this top 40 d.j.

As for your question about the "lady folk" comment, clearly you're not cultured enough to know classic musical theatre when you see it referenced.

Regarding partisanship, I'm not sure any Democrat would say they don't have partisan values. Valuing life - peace, prosperity and health for all, and environmental stewardship -are deeply held values.

I'm no Democrat, but just pointing out that your assertion is misguided on that one.

If you look at the hell your party created in our country and around the world over the past 8 years, perhaps it would have been wise to compromise a little more. Clearly, you had not the answers.
I'm glad I can still be a "kid" at 66!

Of course the Glenn Beck Show, since it is sponsored by Goldline, charges for the commercial time. That, however, doesn't constitute a "kickback". That is how it works. Goldline buys advertising time on the show.

You'd have to prove that Beck is receiving money personally, on the side from Goldline. That is a "kickback", and I doubt this happens. If you think it does, prove it. Otherwise your just guessing, and making a baseless charge.

By the way, Beck hasn't been a top 40's DJ for many, many years. Rush Limbaugh was also once a DJ.

You may think Beck's show is nothing but a "worlds coming to an end fear fest". You're entitled to your opinion.

Consider, however, that Glenn Beck is not the only one saying what he's saying. There are many financial experts that are saying exactly the same things. The U.S. right now is in a heap of trouble with this out of control spending. It simply has to stop, and in fact be reversed. If it isn't, we very definitely are in for a serious crash, from which it will be very difficult to recover. I don't think it would be impossible; but, that also depends on what happens on the political side of the equation. If Barack Obama and his band of thugs get their way, and turn this nation into a Marxist form of government, we're dead meat. America as we have known it will be gone, and only a revolution will bring it back.

That isn't "fear mongering". That is a call for Americans to "wake up and smell the coffee". It is a call to action (which, fortunately, is happening). This Republic must be saved, or it will be a "banana republic".

History is repeating itself. How many times does man have to learn that Socialism/Marxism, whatever you want to call it does not work. Freedom, liberty, and capitalism do work. It is only because of the growing corruption in the near perfect system that our founders created that has brought us the problems that we have faced in the last half century, and Barack Obama has accelerated that corruption by stealth, and in some cases right out in the open under our noses.

Obama and the Democrats are thumbing their noses at the Constitution and laughing at us, passing all manner of illegal (unconstitutional) legislation right out in the open, and to the Americans that have raised their hands and called foul, they call us names like "angry mobs", "teabaggers", "right wing extremists"; you know them all. They have no shame. They know they are wrong, but they are doing it anyway, because they are Progressives, and they think they are going to establish some kind of Utopian society. The idea that ones wealth should be spread around, and no one should have more than another is not only ridiculous, unworkable, unfair to those entrepreneurs and achievers, but this has all been tried before in the world and failed.

These moronic ideas result in less of everything. Less goods and services. Less quality of life. Less quality of goods and services. Shortages of food, energy, and everything that sustains our lives.

But those at the top will have all they need and live like kings. Read about it. It's in the History books.

Democrats do not value life. They support and indeed promote the killing of innocent life here and around the world, and they think the taxpayers should pay for it.

Peace, prosperity, and "health for all". Very nice political slogan.

We all want peace. But it isn't something that is sustainable in an evil world. Periods of "relative" peace, yes. But what you call peace may not be to some. I wonder if the people of Iran or Venezuela would say they are living in "peace". Probably not.

The human spirit yearns for freedom. The United States of America, as our founders created it, has made us the most free people of any country in the world in the history of man. But it comes at a price. It must be defended. This means that we need the strongest, most well equipped fighting force in the world. Peace through strength. I'm sure you've heard that.

Prosperity. Do the Democrats believe that? No, they do not. Not this Democrat Party. Obama and his thugs plan to plunder the prosperity of some to support their Orwellian programs, and also to redistribute that wealth to others, and even to other countries.

When individuals are not free to prosper, the nation will no longer be prosperous. Look what they (Obama and the Democrats) are doing. And you seriously want to make the claim that somehow the "last eight years" have created a mess? Please. That claim has become nothing but a cliche. We were better off for all of those eight years than we have been for the last eleven months! Are you still employed? Consider yourself lucky. We are in a whole heap of mess right now. And it wasn't created by George W. Bush.

Who has created "hell" around the world? Clearly, it isn't the United States of America! And not for only the "last eight years". Terrorists, and terrorism is what is creating "hell" around the world. It has to be dealt with. Unfortunately, it seems like Barack H. Obama isn't willing, nor is he up to the task. He cannot even say the word, "victory", and he has apologized for America to every enemy and dictator around the world. For that, he should be impeached, and face charges for treason.

Health for all. Right. We would all love that. But the government cannot provide it, should not provide it, and is least capable of providing it. We have other countries as examples. None have a health care system that is cheaper, and more excellent than the system we have which the Democrats want to destroy.

This issue isn't about health care anyway. It's about control over every aspect of your life. "Health care" is a ruse. And you're buying it hook, line, and sinker.

Environmental stewardship. We should be good stewards; but not at the expense of basic human needs.

Look what they have done to the California farmers. Or are you not aware? If you are not aware, why aren't you?

The Central Valley has produced the bulk of our produce and other food for many, many years. It's farmlands are rich. But, they require irrigation. Our Federal Government is now withholding water from these farms to the point where they are only allowed one tenth of what they used to get. Farmers are going out of business. They cannot any longer farm. Their farms are dusty wastelands.

What that means to the rest of us is that our food supply is short. Have you noticed prices going up at the grocery store? I have. It also means we must import more of our produce from Mexico. We used to have such an abundance that we exported food to other countries. Our farmers, it has been said, feed the world. This used to be true.

Dependence on foreign oil, the Democrats have long claimed, must come to an end. Yet, because of radical environmentalism, we cannot drill or produce from or own natural resources.

Oil is vital. We get more from oil than just gasoline. Oil is what drives our industries, and it is necessary for just about every product you can name. We will never not have a need for oil.

And oil drilling and production is safe. It does not harm the environment. I have read that in Alaska, there is virtually no trace left of the spill from the Exxon Valdez.

Radical environmentalism threatens our freedom. It is the essence of the "global warming" or "climate change" (take your pick) hoax. Again, it is all about control of your life. Nothing more. And it has now clearly been exposed for what we all knew it was anyway.

I think your perspective on the world needs some "tweaking".

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Old 12-13-2009, 07:34 AM
 
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Radicals dislike Beck!
Far left Liberals will always knock conservatives
and make themselves look bad afterward.
I think Beck is great and never miss a show.
He is almost as good as Reilly...
It's actually not an issue of radicals. It's just an issue of honesty. Beck has been proven to willfully lie and manipulate his audience. The Goldline issue is just the latest.

He's really not trustworthy. O'Reilly is far better.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:59 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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BINGO! All truth, too bad the swooners cannot see it, ok they can they just don't wanna, it is call self imposed ignorance.
Casper
I think the "self imposed ignorance" is on the part of the anti-Beck bunch.

What you people do best is jeer and smear. None of you have any answers. If you did, you would offer some arguments to rebut the claims of people like Glenn Beck. But none have.

You cannot make a case against Beck. These people in the White House are who they are. They have tracks that can be followed. And they have an agenda that they themselves have laid out. It is clear, and Beck has presented his case.

Now, refute it. If you can. Insults and smears won't do it.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:05 AM
 
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Not to you, I couldn't.
Well, if you cannot prove it to roysoldboy, then you cannot prove it to anyone.

But go ahead. Give it a whirl. I'd like to see what you come up with.

I think Beck's case is pretty much "air tight", so to speak.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:10 AM
 
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Left wing whacks see SUCCESS in a different way.

Beck has taken down these two all by himself yet he has no credibility.

Amazing how so many people drink from the same kool-aid can.
So true. I tried to "rep" ya again; but, like Obama, I'm supposed to "spread the wealth around"!
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:12 AM
 
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Well, if you cannot prove it to roysoldboy, then you cannot prove it to anyone.
Anyone but you, perhaps?

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But go ahead. Give it a whirl. I'd like to see what you come up with.
Please refer to post #40 in this thread, then.

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I think Beck's case is pretty much "air tight", so to speak.
Shocking.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Did Glenn Beck tell you that Van Jones wrote an entire book about using the free market to build a sustainble economy? Did you know anything about Van Jones to know that he was railroaded by lies from the right?

No? Hmmm.... the scam artist strikes again.

Buy gold... your savior demands it of you for salvation.
Van Jones is a self describe (or avowed) communist, and the book you mention is basically a ruse. He doesn't believe in the free market.

What these people do best is deceive, and what he means is to "use" the free market system to bring it down.

Jones wasn't "railroaded" by anybody. He became an embarassment for comments he made, and also for being exposed as a "truther". He hasn't gone "away" either. He is still as involved as ever. He works for John Podesta's "Center for American Prgress", which is also involved in setting the agenda for this administration.

These people (the whole bunch of Obama's czars and others) move around a lot, from one radical leftist organization to the other. They have left a lot of tracks. Most of them have known each other for years, and some have ties to the radical 60's groups like SDS and the Weather Underground.

If you think that there is some kind of virtue in this administration, think again. These are not "good" people. Nor are they kind. They are pure evil.
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