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Old 12-13-2009, 09:55 PM
 
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And of the extreme social conservatives ?
Here's the deal

I believe that about 30 % of USA is socially conservative , 50 % socially moderate or libertarian and 20 % socially liberal

* I'm not American by the way *

Yet the loons come here and go around posting their fairytale worldviews

The extreme social conservatives give a bad name for the moderate social conservatives and the brainwashed social liberals truly DO believe that they are the majority or as they say '' The future is bright and as 'religion goes down the tube' America will be socially liberal! Yippey! Hooray! We just have to wait out... ''

Are they retarded ? Mentally unstable ?
Do they forget that there are atheists and agnostics whom are NOT socially liberal ?

How about social moderates ?
How about social libertarians ?
How about secular social conservatives ?

Besides social moderation and social libertarianism from atheists , deists and agnostics ever heard of secular social conservatism ?

'' Social Conservatism Without Moral Hypocrisy '' --- Social Conservatism, Without Moral Hypocrisy - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

'' Death of the Intellectual Protestant '' --- Secular Right » The Death of Intellectual Protestantism

With things like I don't know

Personal responsibility
Order
Decency

You know those '' basic primitive things social conservatives do ''
Almost like an instinct

They tend to be versed in Ancient Greece , Ancient Rome , '' Intellectual Protestantism '' , Eastern religions and so forth

And if that isn't enough as I stated beforehand '' The YOUNG are socially liberal and as the 'bigoted older generations' die off they are the future! ''

False , False , False
Do they forget that young people are ALWAYS socially liberal ?

GOSH

Even I was a social liberal when I was younger ... now I'm always switching between social moderation , '' intelectual social conservatism '' and am even a bit attracted to social libertarianism ( social libertarianism always centers around that social issues should be as small as possible on the federal level and should be more state or local level )

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Old 12-13-2009, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I believe that about 30 % of USA is socially conservative , 50 % socially moderate or libertarian and 20 % socially liberal
More like 43% conservative, 38% moderate and the rest liberal.
 
Old 12-13-2009, 10:03 PM
 
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Because you are not American you probably have much less tolerance for dissenting ideas, opinions, and belief systems.
 
Old 12-13-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Amelia12345678910 View Post
I believe that about 30 % of USA is socially conservative , 50 % socially moderate or libertarian and 20 % socially liberal


A social libertarian is not moderate. A social libertarian is someone who believes in complete freedom for the individual, as long as the rights of others are not violated.

The scale goes from libertarian on the left to authoritarian on the right. You're confusing terms by equating libertarians with moderates.
 
Old 12-13-2009, 10:09 PM
 
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A social libertarian is not moderate. A social libertarian is someone who believes in complete freedom for the individual, as long as the rights of others are not violated.

The scale goes from libertarian on the left to authoritarian on the right. You're confusing terms by equating libertarians with moderates.
Yeah, that and making up the whole argument based solely on your personal opinion of statistics rather than actual statistics.
 
Old 12-13-2009, 10:11 PM
 
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Yeah, that and making up the whole argument based solely on your personal opinion of statistics rather than actual statistics.
That would seem to pose a problem, yes.
 
Old 12-13-2009, 10:30 PM
 
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It would be interesting to define 'social conservatism'.
In the US conservatives tend to be religious, materialistic, selfish, defend the Status Quo, and apparently believe that unbridled capitalism (producing extravagant wealth) is the meaning of life.
Try to find conservative intellectuals that are interested in a discussion.
I would also be interested if conservatives have any life philosophies.
 
Old 12-13-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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And of the extreme social conservatives ?


Even I was a social liberal when I was younger ... now I'm always switching between social moderation , '' intelectual social conservatism '' and am even a bit attracted to social libertarianism ( social libertarianism always centers around that social issues should be as small as possible on the federal level and should be more state or local level )
The Marines and the paratroopers are always hiring. That will give you a firm grounding in what to believe. (I know it did me, although I later came to question 90% of what I had learned--always a good experience.)
 
Old 12-13-2009, 11:04 PM
 
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More like 43% conservative, 38% moderate and the rest liberal.

Sorry to break it to you, but you are no conservative.
 
Old 12-13-2009, 11:15 PM
 
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Are you this vocal of your own culture?
Or do you simply come here to start fights when you have no too much time on your hands?
Do you enjoy trolling?
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