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Old 12-14-2009, 02:20 PM
 
Location: 53179
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I don't think Caucasians are "really bad dancers" as a rule, but they certainly have less of a sense of rhythm than Negroids. It's just more evidence that there are differences between the races. It's okay to acknowledge this.
Yea, but it also depends on what kind of dance we are talking about.
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Dream world. I know people from all racial backgrounds who disprove these stereotypes. You really need to get out more and stay away from those supremacist sites.
You obviously have no understanding of averages and statistics. The average IQ of whites is 100, the average IQ of blacks is 85. Does that mean all whites are more intelligent than all blacks? Of course not.

Blacks commit more crimes on average than asians. Does that mean all blacks are criminals and all asians are saints? Of course not.

It also says black babies learn to crawl and walk earlier, that they go into puberty earlier, that they are most gifted in sports.

Do that mean that black people are good at sports? Of course not.

What you and people like you, try to do is, find someone who breaks the mold or stereotype, so you can say that the stereotypes are wrong. And then you just ignore statistics and feel justified.

What we are dealing with are averages, and just like in your school there are kids who makes A's and kids that make B's and kids that struggle, and kids who are in special classes. These kids exists in all races.

All I am saying is that, certain races have a higher probability of kids with learning disabilities. I am not saying that all black or mexican or white or asians kids are stupid. Only that a higher proportion of certain groups are below average.

Lets look at this statistic

"Twenty-five per cent of England's Premiership footballers, 84% of American basketball players, 70% of US footballers, and 40% of baseball players are blacks of West African ancestry. The figures in sprinting are even more overwhelming: in the 100m, the purest test of speed, blacks of West African ancestry hold the top 220 times and 494 of the top 500 times."

Sport and Ethnicity (http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0657.htm - broken link)

So 494 out of 500 times are from West Africans. So does the 6 times that aren't West Africans prove that West Africans are not dominant in running? Just because there is a fraction of the population that doesn't fit into the stereotype, does that mean the stereotype is somehow incorrect?
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Old 12-14-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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You realize how insulting this tripe is. Telling black folks that they are not as intelligent than white or Asians but that they can take comfort in their athletic skills and large gentalia?????
He was only making observations about factual data.

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Telling Asians that they are good for nothing except for their intellect???
He didn't say they're good for nothing. He said that Asians, on average, score higher on IQ tests than blacks and whites.

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Whether you realize it or not, you are speaking like a white supremacist.
How does he sound like a white supremacist? He said that whites are average across-the-board.

He could be called a racialist, and there's nothing wrong with that. He acknowledges (as I do) that there are differences between the races.
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Old 12-14-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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He was only making observations about factual data.



He didn't say they're good for nothing. He said that Asians, on average, score higher on IQ tests than blacks and whites.



How does he sound like a white supremacist? He said that whites are average across-the-board.

He could be called a racialist, and there's nothing wrong with that. He acknowledges (as I do) that there are differences between the races.
Data that's skewed to reinforce questionable beliefs is not factual.
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:30 PM
 
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You obviously have no understanding of averages and statistics. The average IQ of whites is 100, the average IQ of blacks is 85. Does that mean all whites are more intelligent than all blacks? Of course not.

Blacks commit more crimes on average than asians. Does that mean all blacks are criminals and all asians are saints? Of course not.

It also says black babies learn to crawl and walk earlier, that they go into puberty earlier, that they are most gifted in sports.

Do that mean that black people are good at sports? Of course not.

What you and people like you, try to do is, find someone who breaks the mold or stereotype, so you can say that the stereotypes are wrong. And then you just ignore statistics and feel justified.

What we are dealing with are averages, and just like in your school there are kids who makes A's and kids that make B's and kids that struggle, and kids who are in special classes. These kids exists in all races.

All I am saying is that, certain races have a higher probability of kids with learning disabilities. I am not saying that all black or mexican or white or asians kids are stupid. Only that a higher proportion of certain groups are below average.

Lets look at this statistic

"Twenty-five per cent of England's Premiership footballers, 84% of American basketball players, 70% of US footballers, and 40% of baseball players are blacks of West African ancestry. The figures in sprinting are even more overwhelming: in the 100m, the purest test of speed, blacks of West African ancestry hold the top 220 times and 494 of the top 500 times."

Sport and Ethnicity (http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0657.htm - broken link)

So 494 out of 500 times are from West Africans. So does the 6 times that aren't West Africans prove that West Africans are not dominant in running? Just because there is a fraction of the population that doesn't fit into the stereotype, does that mean the stereotype is somehow incorrect?

There is nothing even remotely factual about this post. It is actually a glaring example of confirmation bias.
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Data that's skewed to reinforce questionable beliefs is not factual.
How is the data skewed? IQ scores have been repeatedly taken and compared for more than a hundred years.

Every single website discussing genetics and IQ will say the exact same thing, IQ is largely genetic. The study of twins has heavily proven intelligence and genetics.

Race differences in average IQ are largely genetic

Race and intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just type in "iq genetic" in google, you'll find a billion websites that give information on it.

The only real defense of IQ that usually exists has more to do with differences in how our brains work. Some people are better at vocabulary, some are better at spatial reasoning. Just as some people have better visual memories and some have better audial memories. The differences between how a brain functions could be part of the explanation for poor IQ scores in blacks. Many will say its cultural bias, because IQ scores are created by Europeans. But Asians consistently score higher on IQ scores than Europeans, but Africans score much worse.

The IQ scores of sub-saharan Africans would be in the mentally retarded range, yet, I wouldn't consider them to be mentally retarded. And IQ scores are not a reliable indicator for success.

Low Black Intelligence; a racial myth with questionable statistical data.

People should really read about evolution of human beings. Even in recent years there is still a certain amount of evolution, in how people choose their mates, and what criteria are important.

If a civilization puts more value on strength and endurance, a society of hunters/gatherers that have to track down food and haul it back. Then you will have a society filled full of physically strong men but intelligence will probably lack.

If a civilization puts more value on intelligence, because intelligence is necessary to do things like make clothes, farm, store food for harsh winters, and to be very social. Then you will have a society filled full of intelligent men, who are probably much less aggressive.

The general consensus is, areas of the world that had historically high populations and had cold winters, are more likely to have high intelligence. And populations that were more tribal with less-dense populations and had mild winters, are less likely to have high intelligence.

Its all survival of the fittest. The problem is, in modern society intelligence is considered far more valuable than physical gifts(althought athletes are very well-paid). And this basis on what is important in society is where the problems come in.

Whites don't sit around all day feeling sorry for themselves because they aren't the best dancers, they aren't mad because they aren't good at running, and they aren't the best basketball players or football players(unles they play a less physical part of the team, like Quarterback or point guard). If it was more important for society to be physically capable, then whites would feel like the much more inferior race.

If you want to know the truth, Jews actually have probably the highest IQ's in the world(Ashkenazi jews). Ashkenazi actually means "of the rhineland", which are the German jews. The jews that Hitler wanted to exterminate were far more intelligent than even the Germans themselves.

Honestly, I never understand how if jews are so smart, why there are so few of them. I mean there are tons of jews in show business. Jews are disproportionately wealthy in this country, and they were extremely wealthy in Germany also. They are extremely successful businessmen, but for some reason, jews in many ways were practically extinct after WWII. And they were constantly being expelled from country after country for the last couple thousand years.

And before you say Judhaism is a religion not a race, realize that most Jews only marry within their own communities. This was especially the case with the Ashkenazi jews.

Ashkenazi intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:37 PM
 
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He could be called a racialist, and there's nothing wrong with that. He acknowledges (as I do) that there are differences between the races.
There are no differences between the "races." Race is a completely socially constructed concept. The parameters of what constitutes a "race" are set up by society not by science. Amongst scientist; biologist, sociologist, anthropologist and geneticist "race talk" is unhelpful in understanding human beings.
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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What PLEASE come up with something better. And yes i know many white guys, who could dance your pants off, very good, can dance anything on the dance floor, but why is the post here. I stayed up for this!
This must be true, white people can't dance but these Zimbabweans look pretty good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE45p...eature=related
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:08 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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What PLEASE come up with something better. And yes i know many white guys, who could dance your pants off, very good, can dance anything on the dance floor, but why is the post here. I stayed up for this!
I agree. Many a white guy have danced my pants off......as well as other colors of the male gender.
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:10 PM
 
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I guess the only differences some people want to acknowledge are between males and females - although I sometimes wonder if they can even accept those differences. Look at how many times you hear things like, "There's no job that a man can do that a woman can't do equally as well, or even better!" Yeah, right.

Just as there are jobs that are better-suited to men or women, there are certain talents that are found more commonly in certain ethnic backgrounds (and that includes race).
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