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Remember when that federal panel of "experts" made its recommendation regarding mammograms (not an oncologist among them, btw)? No need for women to get screenings in their 40's anymore, remember? Remember what obama and his HHS said? Oh well, no one has to "abide" by that ruling, we won't let insurance companies do away with the very important, life and death, mammograms for women in their 40's. Remember?
"Tens of thousands of lives are being saved by mammography screening, and these idiots want to do away with it," said Daniel B. Kopans, a radiology professor at Harvard Medical School. "It's crazy -- unethical, really."
Some questioned whether the new guidelines were designed more to control spending than to improve health. In addition to prompting fewer doctors to recommend mammograms to their patients, they worried that the move would prompt insurers to deny coverage for many mammograms
Well, looky here. First chance they get;
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As the economy falters and more people go without health insurance, low-income women in at least 20 states are being turned away or put on long waiting lists for free cancer screenings, according to the American Cancer Society's Cancer Action Network.
The issue of when women should get mammograms erupted into controversy last month when the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force recommended that the exams not be given routinely until women are 50, and then every two years.
The American Cancer Society opposes the federal task force recommendations. "I think they made a mistake here," Brawley said.
I think I'd rather listen to my doctor than a bureaucrat looking to cut costs. The recommendation by the panel gave the states even more cover to do away with the screenings.
So....if an insurance company made the same decision, you'd be okay with this, right?
I know of a woman who has a history of breast cancer in her family. She was very worried about her risks for the disease. She wanted to get a mammogram at the age of 30 because her mom had it and her sister had it. The insurance companies said no.
As for low-income women being turned away, I am sure even if this recommendation by the panel hadn't come out, they would STILL be turned away. The real issue is money:
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. This would have been her third straight year receiving a free mammogram through the screening program in St. Lawrence County. But the Norwood, N.Y., resident was told she couldn't get her free mammogram this year because there isn't enough money and she's not old enough. New York used to screen women of all ages, but this year the budget crunch has forced them to focus on those considered at highest risk and exclude women under 50. "It's a scary thought. It really is," said LaBarge, who fears she's at a higher risk because her grandmother died of breast cancer.
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The panel was not looking at cost-cutting, they were simply looking at how beneficial widespread screening for breast cancer is at certain ages.
I just love it when right-wingers want to rail about government getting between people and their doctors but don't see how it applies to them and their stance on wanting to make abortion illegal or make it hard for a woman to obtain an abortion.
So....if an insurance company made the same decision, you'd be okay with this, right?
I know of a woman who has a history of breast cancer in her family. She was very worried about her risks for the disease. She wanted to get a mammogram at the age of 30 because her mom had it and her sister had it. The insurance companies said no.
As for low-income women being turned away, I am sure even if this recommendation by the panel hadn't come out, they would STILL be turned away. The real issue is money:
Valley News Live - Local/Regional News (http://www.valleynewslive.tv/artman2/publish/facebook/15341.shtml - broken link)
The panel was not looking at cost-cutting, they were simply looking at how beneficial widespread screening for breast cancer is at certain ages.
I just love it when right-wingers want to rail about government getting between people and their doctors but don't see how it applies to them and their stance on wanting to make abortion illegal or make it hard for a woman to obtain an abortion.
No, I would not be OK with it.
I have no doubt this Federal Panel was looking at costs - not one oncologist on the panel.
Women who have no healthcare insurance more likely to die from breast cancer!
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Poor women sought out fewer mammograms—cancer-screening tools that could have helped doctors locate the disease when it was easier to treat. That’s because many did not have health insurance and couldn’t afford them otherwise
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But whatever the cost of mammograms, experts predict more women will find it harder to afford them. And it’s not just a lament of the estimated 7 million uninsured women between 40 and 64, of whom only four in 10 get regular mammograms, compared with eight in 10 women with private insurance
So....if an insurance company made the same decision, you'd be okay with this, right?
I know of a woman who has a history of breast cancer in her family. She was very worried about her risks for the disease. She wanted to get a mammogram at the age of 30 because her mom had it and her sister had it. The insurance companies said no.
As for low-income women being turned away, I am sure even if this recommendation by the panel hadn't come out, they would STILL be turned away. The real issue is money:
Valley News Live - Local/Regional News (http://www.valleynewslive.tv/artman2/publish/facebook/15341.shtml - broken link)
The panel was not looking at cost-cutting, they were simply looking at how beneficial widespread screening for breast cancer is at certain ages.
I just love it when right-wingers want to rail about government getting between people and their doctors but don't see how it applies to them and their stance on wanting to make abortion illegal or make it hard for a woman to obtain an abortion.
What's the difference between someone at an insurance company making the decision or a beuracrat? Your missing the point. A doctor and a patient should be making the decision as to weather or not that patient should be having mamograms. With that being said if you need health care services I am of the belief you should have to pay for it. Health care is not a right and the government doesn't need to supply it to the masses. Last time I checked though hospitals weren't allowed to turn people away. So nobody truly is without healthcare. Just because you don't have insurance doesn't mean you don't have coverage. As for your rant about conservatives and abortion, that decision is based on something you liberals lack, morals. Our country was founded on Chrisitian beliefs that by some miracle still show up from time to time in our laws. Have no fear though, your boy Obama and his cronies in the house and senate are doing their best to socialize America into being just like Europe. Just think, won't it be great to pay 75% income tax so we can have all that rationed free health care and education! Whoo Hoo! Let the good times roll. I don't get you liberals. What is wrong with people working hard, earning a living and keeping most of it. Capitalism works if the people work. Welfare and government control don't work. That system turns into tyranny which is what gave birth to our country in the first place. So why are we looking to go backwards in our evolution?
What's the difference between someone at an insurance company making the decision or a beuracrat? Your missing the point. A doctor and a patient should be making the decision as to weather or not that patient should be having mamograms. With that being said if you need health care services I am of the belief you should have to pay for it. Health care is not a right and the government doesn't need to supply it to the masses. Last time I checked though hospitals weren't allowed to turn people away. So nobody truly is without healthcare. Just because you don't have insurance doesn't mean you don't have coverage. As for your rant about conservatives and abortion, that decision is based on something you liberals lack, morals. Our country was founded on Chrisitian beliefs that by some miracle still show up from time to time in our laws. Have no fear though, your boy Obama and his cronies in the house and senate are doing their best to socialize America into being just like Europe. Just think, won't it be great to pay 75% income tax so we can have all that rationed free health care and education! Whoo Hoo! Let the good times roll. I don't get you liberals. What is wrong with people working hard, earning a living and keeping most of it. Capitalism works if the people work. Welfare and government control don't work. That system turns into tyranny which is what gave birth to our country in the first place. So why are we looking to go backwards in our evolution?
What's the difference between someone at an insurance company making the decision or a beuracrat? Your missing the point. A doctor and a patient should be making the decision as to weather or not that patient should be having mamograms. With that being said if you need health care services I am of the belief you should have to pay for it. Health care is not a right and the government doesn't need to supply it to the masses. Last time I checked though hospitals weren't allowed to turn people away. So nobody truly is without healthcare. Just because you don't have insurance doesn't mean you don't have coverage. As for your rant about conservatives and abortion, that decision is based on something you liberals lack, morals. Our country was founded on Chrisitian beliefs that by some miracle still show up from time to time in our laws. Have no fear though, your boy Obama and his cronies in the house and senate are doing their best to socialize America into being just like Europe. Just think, won't it be great to pay 75% income tax so we can have all that rationed free health care and education! Whoo Hoo! Let the good times roll. I don't get you liberals. What is wrong with people working hard, earning a living and keeping most of it. Capitalism works if the people work. Welfare and government control don't work. That system turns into tyranny which is what gave birth to our country in the first place. So why are we looking to go backwards in our evolution?
Hospitals can and do turn people away.
They are only required to stabilize you. Basically if you're close to death's door, they HAVE to do something. When was the last time you heard of a hospital giving Chemo for free? Did they ever do a heart transplant for free? Just wondering.
Trust me, I've met people who have been turned away from hospitals because they were uninsured.
Let's see you go about 5-10 years being uninsured and you tell me how it is. I think your opinion would change greatly if you were uninsured.
Trust me, Obama is NO socialist. It's a sad state of affairs when we think he of all people is socialist.
I think we're going backwards by allowing people to die simply because we're concerned with profit rather than human lives.
If we were truly a "Christian" nation, we'd already have a national health insurance system and you wouldn't have people losing their homes because of medical bills. You wouldn't have people dying because hospitals are turning them away or they can't get follow up care to a chronic condition.
Remember. Insurance companies are your friend, and will protect us from big bad government.... even if they profit handsomely by doing so.
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