Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-14-2009, 11:28 PM
 
4,049 posts, read 5,029,983 times
Reputation: 1333

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale View Post
Do you think Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney would do the same as President? I don't.
The conservatives, so-called "for individual responsibility and limited government", always seem to elect people who are for a large government controlling individuals.

A true conservative would oppose criminalization of drugs, gambling, prostitution, etc. as long as they involved only consenting adults.

But as for CA legalizing pot without "fed approval", f- the feds; they need to back off and let the people decide what the people want. They, as people, don't have the right to imprison and steal from other people just because of a differing opinion on morality.

CA will be a strong player in the struggle to drag the 'rulers' out of their power trip into the real world of individual rights and responsibilities, where some people will no longer be able to rob and imprison other people unjustly.

Of course, since this is a democracy and there are voters empowering those gestapo rulers who feel morally superior and right for robbing and imprisoning users of non-govt-approved intoxicants, CA voters will help break the ice for other voters to realize a world of personal rights and responsibilities.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-14-2009, 11:59 PM
 
26,680 posts, read 28,659,127 times
Reputation: 7943
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
Palin wasnt running for President..
I didn't say she was.

My question was asking if she did become President, would she keep the rules as Obama has set them. I doubt it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2009, 09:14 AM
 
4,285 posts, read 10,762,440 times
Reputation: 3810
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale View Post
Do you think Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney would do the same as President? I don't.
What could they really do?

All the federal government has enough resources to do would be to shut down actual store fronts if they tried to have special weed stores.


but it is a plant that you could easily grow at home. They dont have the resources to bust people growing a handful of plants.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2009, 09:15 AM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,081,664 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale View Post
I didn't say she was.

My question was asking if she did become President, would she keep the rules as Obama has set them. I doubt it.
Would Mickey Mouse? It has about as much validity in the thread as Sarah Palin..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
24,868 posts, read 24,377,473 times
Reputation: 8672
I'm sure it has a decent chance of passing, but the federal government can never allow it. They can allow it for medical use, that is ok under the UN treaty banning Marijuana world wide. However, use for recreation is strictly prohibitied by the UN, and we signed the treaty.

Until we decide to break that treaty, it will never be legalized by the federal government. They can, simply not enforce the law, but making money on an illegal operation can get one in trouble with the IRS, just ask Capone.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: California
62 posts, read 80,354 times
Reputation: 70
As a Californian, I have mixed feelings about legalizing Marijuana. First, if it's legalized, how are law enforcement officers supposed to deal with people who overuse Marijuana while for example, driving and operating other vehicles? Unlike alcohol, there isn't a test limit or level for detecting acute, excess usage. I'm not trying to be funny, because I was hit by a driver who was under the influence of Marijuana. I had to quit ballet because of injuries sustained from the accident. The incident occurred while I was crossing the street near a college parking lot, the driver reeked of weed when the police came and interrogated him, and he finally admitted to smoking before he left his home. I guess it was better that he'd been smoking weed and not drinking, because if he'd been driving drunk he would've hit me at a higher speed; I would've been dead instead of having a few broken bones. All in all, I wouldn't want people to be put in danger because of legalization.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2009, 11:39 AM
 
6,084 posts, read 6,040,399 times
Reputation: 1916
Its about time. Cali already has a problem with its prisons being overcrowded. In fact the governator is still in contempt of court for not releasing prisoners due to the overcrowding.

Cigarettes, alcohol and so called prescriptions given to school kids for just being kids have a far more damaging effect on people and society in general.

Why not legalize marijuana and use the tax revenue to pull itself out of its massive debt? That is far more beneficial to society than locking people up who are nonviolent and sending them to prison where they DO BECOME violent and then send them back out to society to wreak havoc. Less costly too as Cali has found out the hard way in regards to its high prison population.

Last edited by kovert; 12-15-2009 at 12:04 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2009, 11:45 AM
 
6,084 posts, read 6,040,399 times
Reputation: 1916
It may vary by state but I believe 2 or 3 drinks means you are legally impaired. I don't see this as a major issue because just like alcohol use and driving is prohibited so can marijuana use and any thing else that can impair mental and body functions should be illegal. Just as with cigarettes, alcohol and certain prescription drugs should have certain restrictions. Legalization does not mean a free for all.


Quote:
Originally Posted by cherry sakura View Post
First, if it's legalized, how are law enforcement officers supposed to deal with people who overuse Marijuana while for example, driving and operating other vehicles? Unlike alcohol, there isn't a test limit or level for detecting acute, excess usage. I'm not trying to be funny, because I was hit by a driver who was under the influence of Marijuana. I had to quit ballet because of injuries sustained from the accident. The incident occurred while I was crossing the street near a college parking lot, the driver reeked of weed when the police came and interrogated him, and he finally admitted to smoking before he left his home. I guess it was better that he'd been smoking weed and not drinking, because if he'd been driving drunk he would've hit me at a higher speed; I would've been dead instead of having a few broken bones. All in all, I wouldn't want people to be put in danger because of legalization.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: California
62 posts, read 80,354 times
Reputation: 70
Quote:
Legalization does not mean a free for all.
But how would acute overuse be defined? I can see cases of reckless driving due to under the influence of weed being tossed out in court, simply for the argument of inconclusive evidence. Then those accidents would be categorized not as the similar yet more serious crime of DUIs, and instead they would be subjected to lesser punishments.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: DFW
40,952 posts, read 49,155,879 times
Reputation: 54995
As a moderate conservative I have wondered why we have not legalized it years ago. Sell it in the liquor stores, tax it like cigarettes and enforce the DUI laws.

We would take a lot of money out of the Mexican Mafia and use it for the better good.

Prohibition does not work. When we have friends over instead of going outside for a cig half go outside for a bowl. Even the redneck anti Obama haters smoke pot and drink a beer.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top