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Or maybe he looks at it as an "unprecedented" (laughs at Obama verbiage) deed for humanity. One in which he takes all the abuse and everyone else gets to go on with their smugness and self indulgence. Maybe it should be a deed that liberals would find admirable.
What are you talking about? Why are you politicizing this? He was sent home for claiming that he drew a picture of himself hanging on a cross.
Any psychologist would identify a child's drawing of that nature as indication of trouble and potential suicide.
So, clarify for me, are we to value the lives of children or not? I get confused.
What if the child had drawn a picture of himself with a gun to his head? Or a picture of himself lying in a bathtub slashing his wrists? How about a depiction of himself being bound, beaten and stabbed? Would you still think that the teacher overreacted? If you ignore the religious iconography that a child of his age can't possibly understand, the picture of himself nailed to and dying on a cross is no less disturbing than any of those other images and just as likely to be a sign of possible mental illness and suicidal thoughts.
And once again, it appears that wingnuts have no sense of proportion, and no ability to restrain themselves when a hissy fit comes on.
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Hackett [school district superintendent] said the student, age 9, was never suspended and that neither he nor other students at the Maxham Elementary School were asked by the teacher to sketch something that reminded them of Christmas or any religious holiday, as the Gazette and other media reported and the father suggested, although his story changed as he explained it.
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She said the drawing was seen as a potential cry for help when the student identified himself, rather than Jesus, on the cross, which prompted the teacher to alert the school’s principal and staff psychologist. As a result, the boy underwent a psychological evaluation. (source (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/12/16/taunton_officials_dispute_reports_on_jesus_sketch? mode=PF - broken link))
Can you all learn to keep control of yourselves before advocating lynchings when you clearly have no idea what's going on? Is that too much to ask?
What are you talking about? Why are you politicizing this? He was sent home for claiming that he drew a picture of himself hanging on a cross.
Any psychologist would identify a child's drawing of that nature as indication of trouble and potential suicide.
So, clarify for me, are we to value the lives of children or not? I get confused.
Bluefly if this was my child I wouldn't be worried about the teacher for raising a valid concern.
This obviously is not a drawing that represents the holiday spirit when he says it's him on the cross.
Alarm bells would be going off!
What if the child had actually killed himself or some other child? Then the parents picking up the child's belongings discover the drawings that had been seen by the teacher. Everyone would be asking how come you didn't pick up on the obvious signals. This is why in many areas teachers are mandatory reporters. It takes the decision out of the teacher's hands and gets people trained to make the evaluations involved. Some districts have trained people on staff to make such reviews. It doesn't mean the child has a problem, but a trained person should interview the child.
BTW: Just saw the report on Fox. They ran with the story as if it was a drawing of Jesus, despite the video they aired which had the father saying the teacher reacted after the child claimed it was a drawing of the child on a cross, NOT Jesus. Fox also reported that the school is claiming they didn't suspend the child.
There is a big difference between a drawing of himself or Jesus. In my local school district the teachers must report if they become aware of something that COULD be symptomatic of child abuse. It is not up to the teacher to determine if there is actual abuse.
It's a special ed kid and there are no doubt issues that aren't being presented to us. We can't really take a single incident, and only one side to the story, and make any assumptions. Obviously it's a GREAT headline for the christian persecution crowd, but it doesn't have any meat unless you know what the school/teacher/administrators know...and we don't.
And once again, it appears that wingnuts have no sense of proportion, and no ability to restrain themselves when a hissy fit comes on.
Can you all learn to keep control of yourselves before advocating lynchings when you clearly have no idea what's going on? Is that too much to ask?
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A Taunton School District statement posted online last night said: “It has been reported in the media that a student was suspended over drawing a rendering of Jesus Christ on the cross. This report is totally inaccurate, and the student was never suspended.”
The statement also said that a drawing circulated by the boy’s father, Chester A. Johnson Sr., is not the same one that alarmed the teacher.
So even the school has conflicting statements as well as the father who still stands firmly by his statements. He has asked for a small "lump sum" though...
Children do funny things at times and they often interpret things differently than what society has deemed "the right way to look or explain something".
The picture does not explain the child's emotional or rational position. They may at times be used as one of many tools to reach opinions of view to a persons state of mind or position, but they are simply tools, devices used for analysis.
Psychology is not an exact science, rather an ever changing practice of discovery that does not always fit neatly into some confined explanation or text book definition.
Why it may be possible the child has serious issues, it could also be something innocent.
Some of you are jumping to "movie" like conclusions that are sensationalist in their observations.
what if the child comes back with an explanation that shows it to be harmless?
For example... what if the child simply looked to Jesus as a role model, misinterpreted the meaning of the cross and why it happened and was simply saying he too wanted to be like him, to save people?
That is simply one reasonable explanation based on the way children tend to think at times or how they sometimes interpret literally some issues. There are many more. It could be innocent, which is why proper steps need to be taken to not blow things out of proportion until some answers are obtained.
The first step is the parents (maybe the parents were talking about Jesus and the child misunderstood something to which the parents could explain and it would be a non-issue), and from there more information can be obtained to make a more informed decision on what should be done next.
All this did was create a huge issue and sensationalized it, taking all of the power and respect from the parents in the process as well as putting that family through a lot of conflict for something that "may" not even be an issue.
Regardless of the child's state of mind, blowing this up, bringing in "specialists" and all of the other conflict that will result (as we can see in the media), this will only create stress on the child and family which is not needed in either case.
What are you talking about? Why are you politicizing this? He was sent home for claiming that he drew a picture of himself hanging on a cross.
Any psychologist would identify a child's drawing of that nature as indication of trouble and potential suicide.
So, clarify for me, are we to value the lives of children or not? I get confused.
It involves people and their rights. Its very underpinnings are political. The school now says it didn't have anything to do with the cross and they never sent him home.
Strange you're trying to speak for all psychologist.
Of course we value the lives of our children but now the whole story is muddled with confusion that has come from the school officials along with a parent that seems to wanna get paid for his family's suffrage.
Fox News is running the story and showing the picture but leaving out the crucial detail that the drawing is of the child not Jesus. In fact they have altered the picture to remove the board above the head of the victim that clearly displays the first name of the child.
Fox News, we distort you decide.
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