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Old 12-17-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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But isn't that culturally defined and not biological? Michelangelo's "David" was a piece devoted to the male form. Roman and Greek art similarly found the male form to be beautiful. To say that it is innate that humans only find the female form beautiful is incorrect because history says otherwise.
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Millions of women will disagree. Men can be handsome and attractive also.
You don`t understand because you are not gay, but I`d rather watch Johnny Depp or George Clooney than a supermodel.
I am not trying to say that it is inate that humans find women beautiful adn not men. I think that men can find another man even today. There have been times walking with my wife that we've seen some guy and I just blurt out "Holy S@@@!" And we both laugh and even talk about it. Not from a sexual point for me at least but all the same. Then again, I'm quite at ease with my sexuality and know what I like. I understand that men can also be attractive and built like a brick outhouse. But I believe more was done witht women and art than men through the ages, but I couldn't prove it to you.

And Pamky, please don't use the "You dn't know 'cuz you ain't" line. But you're right, I'm not. That doesn't mean I don't have gay friends and cannot empathize. I can anddo
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:45 PM
 
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To me that is an attempt at "pigeon-holing" people. Even if it is a conservative.
Pigeon holing is your way of saying you can't explain the discrepancy and that my point about religious hypocrisy may be right.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:48 PM
 
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And Pamky, please don't use the "You dn't know 'cuz you ain't" line. But you're right, I'm not. That doesn't mean I don't have gay friends and cannot empathize. I can anddo
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:49 PM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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Pigeon holing is your way of saying you can't explain the discrepancy and that my point about religious hypocrisy may be right.

I don't doubt that you are right but not that all conservatives are religiously hypocritical. The's the box you put me in as I see it. Sorry, it;s just too tight a box especially when, to me, religion has nothing to do with it. To me it's aesthetics. Can I have that box. It doesn't look crowded at all. (facetiousness)
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:51 PM
 
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I would like to hear from conservatives regarding this issue. There seems to be a double standard regarding how gays and lesbians are treated by conservatives particularly in the South. I used to hear from conservative friends that they saw nothing wrong with two women being involved in a relationship but the same couldn't be said for two men. If conservatives are opposed to homosexuality then why is it more okay for two women to be engaged in lesbian behavior than two men? For example, someone was suprised the Mayor of Houston is a lesbian but I'm not suprised by that outcome knowing that gays and lesbians are perceived differently by conservatives. Lastly, some conservatives have argued that biological differences enable women to be attracted to one another but men couldn't similarly be attracted to each other. Please explain how that is possible
Probably because M2M P in the B is just straight up nasty to think of, unless you are into that. W2W is not as nasty.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:51 PM
 
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To add onto that premise, it's only hot when two attractive lesbians are having 'relations'. If it's two unattractive lesbians, the fire and pitchforks come out again..

Interesting, isn't it?
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:02 PM
 
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If it is about religion and values then why isn't their equal disdain for both male and female homosexuals? Likewise, why do almost all gay hate crimes involve male homosexual victims?
As long as boobs are involved sinning rules.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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Probably because M2M P in the B is just straight up nasty to think of, unless you are into that. W2W is not as nasty.
So you are saying that you can't be accepting of people and treat them with respect if you disapprove of what they do in their bedroom behind closed doors? I always thought it was about religious values, now I understand that discrimination against male homosexuals has to do with your views of their sexual practices. Interesting
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:09 PM
 
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To add onto that premise, it's only hot when two attractive lesbians are having 'relations'. If it's two unattractive lesbians, the fire and pitchforks come out again..

Interesting, isn't it?
Nope, no fire and pitchforks. Just lack of interest.

This really isn't rocket science.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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As long as boobs are involved sinning rules.
There is nothing wrong with sinning as long as it benefits you right? Strom Thurmond probably said the same thing when he had an affair with a Black women and had a daughter with her who he never publicly acknowledged. Hypocrisy rules! I agree friend
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