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Old 12-21-2009, 08:30 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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The CBO report savings is actually based off doing nothing and includes the spending on it. The question was simply a biased and poorly worded one from a partisan pollster....
Yeah that is based on if we actually cut medicare spending and some gimmics to pay for the bill.

Hey when has a gov program actually cost what they said it would or hit the budget they said it would
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Why? Because they believe that the government should watch spending and not overspend? Sounds like a good idea to me.
That's fine, but where the **** were these loons when Bush was growing government more than any president in history.

Here, you might this excerpt from an article I read. Enjoy.
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The protests, Armey says, should serve as a blunt warning to Republicans: "If I want to hold my office, I better make these people happy." But given the mix of crazies and dead-enders who showed up at the tea parties — secessionists, self-appointed border militia, Ron Paul "revolutionaries" and kooks who question Obama's citizenship — the protests succeeded only in showcasing the party's most politically ineffective fringe.

"We're moving to a conservatism that's a form of cultural dissent," says David Frum, the former Bush speechwriter who helped coin the phrase "Axis of Evil." "It's becoming a way for people to vent feelings of alienation and anger. It's not a way to organize people into a group that can become a majority, that can win an election and exercise political power in an effective way."

Even the issue supposedly at the heart of the tea parties — higher taxes for ordinary Americans — was itself a falsehood. In an interview with Armey, I ask how he could honestly crusade against Obama for raising taxes when the president has in fact lowered them massively. Armey's response was jaw-dropping.

Armey: Where was the massive tax cut?
RS: In the stimulus bill.
Armey: There was no tax cut in the Obama plan.
RS: I'm sorry?
Armey [To an aide]: Did I miss a tax cut in the Obama stimulus package?
Aide: There was a mild one. A very, very mild one.
Armey: Well, my guy tells me there were apparently some modest tax cuts in there. But my guess is that it was an income-redistributional tax cut.
RS: Correct me if I'm wrong, sir, but it was the largest tax cut in history — even bigger than Bush's.
Armey: I'd have to look at that. Maybe I've been unkind and unfair in having missed that.

"It's just partisan horse****," says Bartlett, the former Reagan deputy. "There were no tea parties protesting the stuff that Bush did that increased the deficit. Nobody said a goddamn word then, because it was the Republicans who were doing it. When our side does it, it's OK. When the other side does exactly the same thing, it's socialism. The party needs a deep rethink of its basic political philosophy. But right now it's all pandering to the base and throwing red meat to crazy people. Whatever you think about the policies they're proposing, there's not the slightest possibility that it will ever put them back into power."
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Simple questions who does he work for?
The state of Nebraska and the United States of America.

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What exactly is his job?
Nebraska's representative to the Senate.

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Who signs his check.
Who knows.

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When did his job become do whatever he wants not what the citizens that elected him to represent them want?
His job is to do what he feels is best for his state and the country as a whole.

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Appears you dont understand what exactly his job is
I know exactly what his job is and as a former Nebraskan I've been a big supporter of his since I was old enough to understand politics.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Read Post #8.
A simple "yes" or "no" would have sufficed. Considering these Senators sometimes stay in office into the 90s, he may have plans to run in 2012. If this health care reform turns out well (and no one knows what will happen despite what all the prognosticators say), all will be forgetten by then. If not, it will be held against him.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: The Lakes Region
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Give them all the boot....the corruption is everywhere. Flip the senate and house....
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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He made the right choice, regardless of what the public wants.


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I know exactly what his job is and as a former Nebraskan I've been a big supporter of his since I was old enough to understand politics.
Clearly you don't understand.
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That's fine, but where the **** were these loons when Bush was growing government more than any president in history.
People calling for fiscal responsibility are "loons"?

Sounds like mommy and daddy should have gotten you a piggy bank and explained how it works.

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Old 12-21-2009, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Simple questions who does he work for? What exactly is his job? Who signs his check. When did his job become do whatever he wants not what the citizens that elected him to represent them want?

Appears you dont understand what exactly his job is
His job is to vote his conscience. If "the people" don't agree with him, their job is to replace him.
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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His job is to vote his conscience. If "the people" don't agree with him, their job is to replace him.
In a backward liberals world.

He is to listen to his constituency while he holds office.
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:04 PM
 
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UHC and our life expectancy plummets down down down!

Better get your money out of the banks before the govermnent does an automatic transfer!
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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In a backward liberals world.

He is to listen to his constituency while he holds office.
I've seen this debated before. The general consensus is that the rep needs to vote the way s/he deems correct.
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:09 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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That's fine, but where the **** were these loons when Bush was growing government more than any president in history.

Here, you might this excerpt from an article I read. Enjoy.


The state of Nebraska and the United States of America.

Nebraska's representative to the Senate.

Who knows.

His job is to do what he feels is best for his state and the country as a whole.

I know exactly what his job is and as a former Nebraskan I've been a big supporter of his since I was old enough to understand politics.
No you obviously dont know what his job is if you think he gets to ignore what the people want that elected him to represent them. Heck why send them to dc, Why have elections. Since you seem to think they dont answer to us they can do whatever they want. Since we are stupid and cant decide what we want for ourselves. You deserve to live in Cuba where the leaders get to decide what you need and get since you obviously dont think you are capable of making those choices that Nelson has to make them for you.
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