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Old 12-26-2009, 09:59 PM
 
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about his son's "extremist views" months ago.

Isn't that special. Obama has been too obsessed with HC to heed the warnings. How was this man allowed to board a plane headed for the US?

That's what I want to know.

Father of Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab, Nigerian terror suspect in Flight 253 attack, warned U.S.
As much as I think Obama is a disaster and don't like many of his counter-terrorism policies, this attempted plot can not be blamed on him or his admin. As was said with the 9/11 warning, there are so many warnings and so many of them are vague that you can only act on some of them and have to use the intelligence and judgment you have. I'm glad the Obama admin is being clear that they consider this an act of terror.
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Old 12-26-2009, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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So he reported it to the US Embassy in Nigeria? To whom? It sounds like he sent several texts. And here you are, blaming Obama. Everything else I have read about this guy says he was on the "watch" list, but not the "no-fly" list. Anyway, he boarded his plane in Nigeria, it was their repsonsibility to refuse him boarding if he was on a "no- fly" list.

Alleged jet attacker on one 'no fly' list, but not 2nd :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Nation (http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/1959374,CST-NWS-jet27.article - broken link)

The man law enforcement officials identified as the suspect in Friday's attempted attack on a overseas flight as it approached Detroit, Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab, is a Nigerian who was reportedly on a U.S. government terror watch list but did not appear on a "no-fly" list.

Do note that headline from the Sun-Times is wrong, he was on a watch list, not a no-fly list.

The younger Mutallab was not on any no-fly list when he flew from Nigeria to Detroit through Amsterdam, Rep. Pete King (R-L.I.) told the Daily News.

Read more: Father of Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab, Nigerian terror suspect in Flight 253 attack, warned U.S.
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Old 12-26-2009, 10:00 PM
 
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So now his middle name can't be uttered because the race-card players and race baiters will take offense.

Doesn't work anymore, thanks to people like you.

BarackHusseinObamaBarackHusseinObama........mmm... mmm...mmmm.
Oh it most certainly does.

The only reason righties use his middle name is because they use it to infer that he's Islamic. For you to suggest otherwise is humorous.

We get it. No need to assume otherwise.
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Old 12-26-2009, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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My mentality? Your "logic" is dizzying. You somehow think that the actions that occurred after-the-fact should have been used as grounds before-the-fact. That would require a stunning level of prescience. But hey, anything to blame PRESIDENT OBAMA for, right?
[MOD CUT] , is this unbelievable?

Obviously, clearly, they had grounds for putting him on the list. Any thinking sane person can see and understand that.

Do you really believe all they had was him throwing away a SIM card?

How utterly absurd.

It is clear that he deserved to be on the list, unless we are talking about terrorist sympathizers who are more concerned that he gets his "due process" and the reasons why he is put on the list is rock solid in concrete.

You must realize, or maybe you don't, that some people are put on the list just for the reason that they had associations or hang out with the wrong crowd.

The question is - how did he board that plane under obama's watch?

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Old 12-26-2009, 10:03 PM
 
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Careful Lis. Reasoned arguments don't work well with desperate folks.
Thx. For once, I am making a logical argument praising Obama. This is a VERY rare occurrence!
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Old 12-26-2009, 10:03 PM
 
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OMfG, is this unbelievable?

Obviously, clearly, they had grounds for putting him on the list. Any thinking sane person can see and understand that.
?
Who is "They"?
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Old 12-26-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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OMfG, is this unbelievable?

Obviously, clearly, they had grounds for putting him on the list. Any thinking sane person can see and understand that.

Do you really believe all they had was him throwing away a SIM card?

How utterly absurd.

It is clear that he deserved to be on the list, unless we are talking about terrorist sympathizers who are more concerned that he gets his "due process" and the reasons why he is put on the list is rock solid in concrete.

You must realize, or maybe you don't, that some people are put on the list just for the reason that they had associations or hang out with the wrong crowd.

The question is - how did he board that plane under obama's watch?
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He got on the plane, in Nigeria, b/c he wasn't on a "no fly" list. Capiche?

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Old 12-26-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Anyway, he boarded his plane in Nigeria, it was their repsonsibility to refuse him boarding if he was on a "no- fly" list.
I certainly hope we don't leave it to officials in places like Nigeria, Sudan, Yemen to make sure all those who are boarding planes for the US are cleared to be on them.
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Old 12-26-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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I certainly hope we don't leave it to officials in places like Nigeria, Sudan, Yemen to make sure all those who are boarding planes for the US are cleared to be on them.
Are you now an expert on airline security worldwide?
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Old 12-26-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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By the right wing whack job's reasoning displayed here, 9/11 is all on Dubya.
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