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ergohead: Thanks for that Dr. Oz video. I missed that episode and am an organic gardener specifically because of pesticides, GMO's, and bad experience with my son's immunization. It just goes to show you that the chemical industry in this country doesn't give a crap about us as long as they make a huge profit.
As far as "hey, it could be anything"...there is some truth to that, BUT don't forget that timing is very important. When you see an overnight change in someone's health or behavior following a new drug/immunization, it's kind of hard to say it was "just a coincidence." By the way, I believe the pharmaceutical industry killed my golden retriever. The vet gave her a drug for her skin problem (one that is also given to humans), and 2-3 hours after taking it, she was lame (couldn't stand on all 4 legs), blind, and wimpering. The vet said she'd had a stroke...funny that this happened within 2-3 hours after taking the medication...more like the drug gave her the stroke. Before being given the medication she was a very healthy, energetic dog with a minor skin irritation.
ergohead: Thanks for that Dr. Oz video. I missed that episode and am an organic gardener specifically because of pesticides, GMO's, and bad experience with my son's immunization. It just goes to show you that the chemical industry in this country doesn't give a crap about us as long as they make a huge profit.
As far as "hey, it could be anything"...there is some truth to that, BUT don't forget that timing is very important. When you see an overnight change in someone's health or behavior following a new drug/immunization, it's kind of hard to say it was "just a coincidence." By the way, I believe the pharmaceutical industry killed my golden retriever. The vet gave her a drug for her skin problem (one that is also given to humans), and 2-3 hours after taking it, she was lame (couldn't stand on all 4 legs), blind, and wimpering. The vet said she'd had a stroke...funny that this happened within 2-3 hours after taking the medication...more like the drug gave her the stroke. Before being given the medication she was a very healthy, energetic dog with a minor skin irritation.
could be a coinsidence too
we do what we can, they approve AND BAN what they can
DDT was one of the BEST insecticides...but also a major poison
Cloridaine was the BEST for termites...but also a poison
creasote is the absolute best wood perservative...but also a poison
our government/cities LOVE using asphault for roads,,(its 3 time CHEAPER and faster than concrete)(but only lasts 1/3 a a timespan) yet it LEACHES toxins into the ground
you say organic... I say BS
are you using manure???? bet it is not fully organic...
yes things are out there, and some may even cause problems...but aytism is GENETIC...do things TRIGGER, the GENETIC DEFORITY...yes..but it all comes down to GENES
I was searching around on Google and popped in on a forum for parents with autistic kids (there are tons out there) and on this thread people were telling their stories and almost every single one started off by saying their child was conceived using IVF or some other fertility assistance. Then I searched that and saw that there is a much higher risk of autism among those who receive fertility treatments than there is in those who conceive naturally. I never realized that before. Also, many parents noticed differences in their children long before the MMR vaccine was administered, which is the vaccine most ofted cited as causing problems. I suppose other vaccines could also be suspect but still....it's such a mystery.
Also, many parents noticed differences in their children long before the MMR vaccine was administered, which is the vaccine most ofted cited as causing problems. I suppose other vaccines could also be suspect but still....it's such a mystery.
This is very interesting.
The MMR vaccine must be administered on or after the first birthday, and in the US it is generally given at the 15 month well-child checkup. Many parents start noticing autistic signs in their children around that age, and doctors have long said this is coincidence. In this book:
the author states that due to the near ubiquity of home video cameras these days, most parents make a video of their child's first birthday. He analyzed some.videos of children later diagnosed with autism. He noted autism signs, particularly the characteristic "flapping" in many of these kids at age 1, before they had ever had their MMR.
Wow, that drunk driving analogy just went right over your head, didn't it?
Are you attempting to insult me because I ignored your lame jab at comparing drunk drivers to vaccinated children? Tsk tsk tsk. Your analogy is irrelevant and you are reaching SO FAR to make your point your arm must be Killing you.
The question is "Are vaccines are safe?". My children are merely ONE EXAMPLE that they are indeed safe for MANY children and we have had no problems, medical or otherwise, from being given vaccines. It is sick children who should avoid them for a variety of reasons, but Autism has yet to be declared one of them. I am all for healthier vaccines just because it is better for everyone involved.
Autism Society of America: UC Davis Study Finds Children with Autism have Mitochondrial Dysfunction, are Less Able to Produce Cellular Energy (http://www.autism-society.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16660&news_iv_ctrl=1882 - broken link)
Children with autism are far more likely to have deficits in their ability to produce cellular energy than are typically developing children, a new study by researchers at UC Davis has found.
Dysfunction in mitochondria already is associated with a number of other neurological conditions, including Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.
The researchers stress that these new findings, which may help physicians provide early diagnoses, do not identify the cause or effects of autism, which affects as many as 1 in every 110 children in the United States, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
I believe that vaccines do not cause Autism. There is NO study proving they do. Please PROVIDE A LINK to a study that says autism was caused directly and ONLY because of a vaccine. Not genetics, not environmental factors, nothing BUT A VACCINE DOSE.
Every child has different DNA and react differently with all SORTS of biological and environmental factors. Some are allergic to Peanut Butter, Bee's, Grass, Turkey etc... There is no reason to OUTLAW these items because of SOME people getting sick, and may even die from them. Be vigilant if your child has these allergies.
Just because some children are genetically weak and their immune systems may be compromised and therefore vaccines may hurt them rather than help them, does not mean my healthy children should not be allowed to get vaccines preventing them from catching some very NASTY diseases.
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Okay, let's try again using some medical examples.
Your children are unique individuals physiologically. So are mine. So is every child. Not all will react the same way to an outside influence.
For example . . .
Some people will have an anaphylactic reaction to a bee sting, but many people will not.
Some people will have an adverse reaction to a prescription medication, but many people will not.
Some smokers will get lung cancer, but others will not, even though we know that cigarette smoke is a carcinogen - that has been well established.
Okay and....
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I could go on and on, but I hope you are seeing more clearly now that you cannot simply state "my kids got vaccinated and they aren't autistic, therefore, the vaccine does not cause autism in anyone."
Show me the study that says IT DOES SOLELY cause Autism.. PROVIDE LINKS TO MEDICAL STUDIES. OTHERWISE, drop it. I want healthier vaccines, but I don't want people making others paranoid and scared of vaxxing there children.
It's not a coincidence that the human lifespan has increased since modern medicine.
No, it's not a coincidence, it's a brain dead, bloody fraud that you have been brainwashed to believe. And you can't even bother yourself to check.
I know .. you believe that in the "old days" everyone died at 45 ... or something like that. I've got news for you ... it's a lie. It was common among our ancestors not only to live just as long or longer than we do today ... but also to remain healthier and more active and capable.
They didn't have "shopping cart scooters" to carry your fat arse up and down the grocery store isles .... people in their 60's were still working the fields 14 hours a day ...doing things that a 30 year old couldn't do today.
Let's take a look at some recognizable names of our past ....
Benjamin Franklin ...... lived to be 84
John Adams ....... 91 years old when he died
George Washington ..... 67
Thomas Jefferson .... 83
James Madison .... 85
The medical establishment wants you to believe that the human race would parish without them ... but the fact of the matter is ... we'd live longer an healthier without them .. as a general rule.
Before modern medicine was invented ... what was it that kept the human race alive for Thousands of years?
^^So some wealthy men with access to good health care (for the time) lived into their 80s and 90s. Big Whoop! A few people always did. However, life expectancy is at its highest ever.
^^So some wealthy men with access to good health care (for the time) lived into their 80s and 90s. Big Whoop! A few people always did. However, life expectancy is at its highest ever.
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