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If any country is to be free and properous having a strongarmed leader is not the way.
Amazing that people will say Bush,or any American president is a tyrant and tout Castro,Chavez and such as a shining example of a leader "for the people".
Chavez,Castro exploits the poor,promising to make them wealthier while proping themselves up as totalrian leaders,using threats,indimidation,changing constitutions without consent.Making themselves the backbone of their country not their people.Bringing the poor up enough to make them happier but never truely free or the best they can be.
You'll never see billboards or painting on a building saying "viva Bush" or viva Clinton"....hopefully.
I dont know if you are refering to me as one of those wing nuts
I was not referring to anyone specifically.
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but I am not painting him as anything other than a scumbag communist dictater, I dont know if that fits into your description of a big "Bugga-Boo". But in my book that is a threat to any one who loves freedom and democracy!
Chavez is the democratically leader of his country. How does that make him a dictator?
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How is he a threat to big oil billionaires?
Because he nationalized oil in Venezuela, which means that the profits go to the people of Venezuela rather than into the coffers of Big Oil. This, more than anything, is why the wing nuts in our government hate him, and if you don't believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.
If any country is to be free and properous having a strongarmed leader is not the way.
Amazing that people will say Bush,or any American president is a tyrant and tout Castro,Chavez and such as a shining example of a leader "for the people".
Chavez,Castro exploits the poor,promising to make them wealthier while proping themselves up as totalrian leaders,using threats,indimidation,changing constitutions without consent.Making themselves the backbone of their country not their people.Bringing the poor up enough to make them happier but never truely free or the best they can be.
You'll never see billboards or painting on a building saying "viva Bush" or viva Clinton"....hopefully.
If any country is to be free and properous having a strongarmed leader is not the way.
Amazing that people will say Bush,or any American president is a tyrant and tout Castro,Chavez and such as a shining example of a leader "for the people".
Chavez,Castro exploits the poor,promising to make them wealthier while proping themselves up as totalrian leaders,using threats,indimidation,changing constitutions without consent.Making themselves the backbone of their country not their people.Bringing the poor up enough to make them happier but never truely free or the best they can be.
You'll never see billboards or painting on a building saying "viva Bush" or viva Clinton"....hopefully.
Chavez,Castro exploits the poor,promising to make them wealthier while proping themselves up as totalrian leaders,using threats,indimidation,changing constitutions without consent.Making themselves the backbone of their country not their people.Bringing the poor up enough to make them happier but never truely free or the best they can be.
Very true. But equally true of the leaders of Saudi Arabia, with whom our President walks hand-in-hand.
I'm not saying Chavez is a good guy. I'm saying that the wing nuts are a bunch of pots calling the kettle black on this one. Nations like Saudi Arabia and China are a FAR graver threat to the US than anyone in South America.
Danny Glover wants to make a movie financed by Chavez, and he's branded a traitor.
George Bush's policy and family wealth is tied to the Saudis, but he's lauded as a hero? ???
I find it interesting that instead of keeping out energy profits at home we send them to a tyrannical family in Saudi Arabia. Like that makes sense.
Yeah, I am with you, lets take that money start building some refinereys here at home and drill for our own oil and put our own people to work in the process!
We have lots of fossil fuel energy in the US and the rest of North America. However extracting it requires a lot of investment that could go down the drain of the Saudi’s ever cut prices. Like they did in the ‘80s. Just one of the ways they shape our energy and foreign policies. We have even more nuclear energy and could, with proper fuel reprocessing, be nearly completely free of foreign oil.
In the 80s I was asleep at the wheel inasmuch as I didn't drive often, and lived in a public transportation City. I remember talk about price fixing or adjustment--but only vaguely.
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We have lots of fossil fuel energy in the US and the rest of North America. However extracting it requires a lot of investment that could go down the drain of the Saudi’s ever cut prices. Like they did in the ‘80s. Just one of the ways they shape our energy and foreign policies. We have even more nuclear energy and could, with proper fuel reprocessing, be nearly completely free of foreign oil.
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