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Old 01-01-2010, 04:09 PM
 
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"Urbina said the prosecutors ignored the advice of senior Justice Department officials and built their case on sworn statements that had been given under a promise of immunity. Urbina said that violated the guards' constitutional rights. He dismissed the government's explanations as "contradictory, unbelievable and lacking in credibility."

This isn't really a political win or loss for anyone, the prosecution just botched the case.
Botching for a desired outcome is not botching - it is circumvention - and like circumcision, the matter is put to rest with a few well placed snips.
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Old 01-01-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Blackwater might want to recruit inmates from America's maximum security prisons, there's plenty of thugs who have been body building and wouldn't mind killing people. Just give 'em some high power weapons and plenty of ammo.
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:20 PM
 
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1) Throwing out the case doesn't mean they had been found not guilty. It only means that the government didn't prepare the prosecution case well enough.
2) When the only motivation for these contractors is money making, they aren't willing let themselves get hurt in the "line of job". They will not take any risk, so if they suspect a possible attack coming they will eliminate the threat beforehand. In Iraq/Afghanistan that means a lot of collateral civilian casualties.
3) That is true anywhere mercenaries are involved, not limited to Iraq only.
4) Most critics would have acted similarly in these life threatening situations.
5) After a while most humans adapt and become like them.
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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1) Throwing out the case doesn't mean they had been found not guilty. It only means that the government didn't prepare the prosecution case well enough.
In this case, it means the prosecution got their information through illegal methods.
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:45 PM
 
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Blackwater might want to recruit inmates from America's maximum security prisons, there's plenty of thugs who have been body building and wouldn't mind killing people. Just give 'em some high power weapons and plenty of ammo.
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Old 01-01-2010, 07:15 PM
 
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In this case, it means the prosecution got their information through illegal methods.
Then, prosecution should be on trial, no?
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Old 01-01-2010, 07:17 PM
 
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Botching for a desired outcome is not botching - it is circumvention - and like circumcision, the matter is put to rest with a few well placed snips.
I see a lot of Government promotions on the immediate horizon.
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Old 01-01-2010, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Then, prosecution should be on trial, no?
If they committed a crime, yes. But I don't think it's a crime what they did. Their actions made the information inadmissible and without it there was no case.
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Old 01-01-2010, 07:28 PM
 
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If they committed a crime, yes. But I don't think it's a crime what they did. Their actions made the information inadmissible and without it there was no case.
I guess, like with all crimes, it comes down to intent, no?

Slime is slippery - Hope its not on a slope.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:27 PM
 
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In this case, it means the prosecution got their information through illegal methods.
Which doesn't make them not guilty...
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