Is Cheney undermining the President during a time of war? (legal, poll)
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Of course we can question the President, and express our opinion on whether he's right or not. But there's a vast difference between a citizen exercising their right to have and to express such opinions and a (suddenly) high-profile, former Vice-President giving lies as facts.
Also a vast difference in a current sitting POTUS who lies.
Are you using the poor behavior of the general public towards the Bush Administration as justification for a former Vice-President to blatantly lie about the current Administration? By that logic, if you murder someone, it's ok for me to murder someone, 'cuz you did it first?
Of course we can question the President, and express our opinion on whether he's right or not. But there's a vast difference between a citizen exercising their right to have and to express such opinions and a (suddenly) high-profile, former Vice-President giving lies as facts.
Do you get white house briefings and can prove he is lying? Or are you assuming hes lying because he doesnt agree with Obama. Because you do know Obama lies himself
This also is a problem with politicians they lie to us and we make excuses for their lies and we pick the side we wish to believe based simply on a letter r or d
I'm also curious what the importance is of saying "Terrorists" or "War on terror" to the GOP? Is this akin to wearing an American flag lapel pin? Just more empty non-sense? All I see are RWNJs repeating what Cheney said (Which is false) without any meaning, How, pray-tell, does vocalizing the words actually make a difference?
Think about it a bit. It may come to you.
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Originally Posted by Evenstar51
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What rational person would think that "Five-Deferment Dick" is a credible
source for military strategy? His ego is so over-inflated that it's painful to see...just another bombastic fool, eager to hear his own voice. Plus, he's just plain evil. A fortune earned from Halliburton is blood money. Gotta hand it to Dick...a legend in his own mind.
What rational person would give any credibility to a post full of name calling.
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Originally Posted by GreenGene
Are you using the poor behavior of the general public towards the Bush Administration as justification for a former Vice-President to blatantly lie about the current Administration? By that logic, if you murder someone, it's ok for me to murder someone, 'cuz you did it first?
Of course we can question the President, and express our opinion on whether he's right or not. But there's a vast difference between a citizen exercising their right to have and to express such opinions and a (suddenly) high-profile, former Vice-President giving lies as facts.
A different perspective often shows more than one side to an issue. He has every right to share that perspective, even a responsibility, if he feels the country is off course. You don't have to agree, but you ought to hear him out and consider it.
Bill Clinton, Dick Cheney and Jimmy Carter have formed virtual governments in exile. While they are within their rights, protocol is better served by following the example of the great Harry S. Truman, who finished his Presidency and got on with ordinary life. Ike, LBJ, and George H. Bush did not holler from the sidelines either. George Dubya has thus far stayed silent as well.
Nixon (FFS I am going to defend him) advised Presidents, but they asked him for advice.
I love you libs...suddenly we're at war!!! Ahhhh!!!
I hope our empty-suit-in-chief pays close attention to Cheney, he needs adult advice from someone.
Ya, right, from someone who is making a healthy bit o' money off the war, who helped create the phony need for a war in Iraq, who was part of an administration who said the war would be a "three week cake walk".....THAT was wrong, or do you conveniently forget that.
Remember when the Cheney administration was trying to cook up reasons to invade Iraq? How anyone opposed was called un-patriotic, traitors,etc.....well, the shoe is on the other foot now and Cheney IS un-patriotic and a traitor.
[quote=southward bound;12303488]Think about it a bit. It may come to you.
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What rational person would give any credibility to a post full of name calling.
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Don't like being reminded that Cheney "had other priorities" during Vietnam and managed five deferments? Or that his political decisions have led the country to the edge of collapse? Or that he likely profited from no-bid contracts for Halliburton in the two terms he "served?" He lied to help kick-start the pre-emptive war with Iraq, and we have thousands dead, maimed and psychologically scarred by PTSD due to those lies. IMO that is evil, and his hands are as bloody as Lady Macbeth's. It's easy to send others to die, when you yourself had "other priorities" when you had the opportunity to serve your country. There's no denying reality...or any moral way to justify his actions. Deal with his record.
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It may come to you.
