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Old 04-26-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
since we know that obama couldn't renounce his US citizenship at that age the "indonesian citizenship" is false. whether or not it is legally fraud depends on the laws of indonesia at that time.

no clue what his faith was at the time nor do i care (..... nor is it constitutional to be a requirement for POTUS ).
Hmmm... "Obama Has Never Been A Muslim"
Organizing for America | BarackObama.com

So, the Indonesian school registration would come down on the fraud side, as it specifically states that Obama is a member of the Islamic religion.

That's one vote so far for the adults in Obama's life being willing to lie at will to get what they want.

 
Old 04-26-2010, 02:59 PM
 
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What his step-father listed him as on the school record is not proof of citizenship or religion. It was the only school in the area and the step-father could have very well put down what he had to get him in school.
Another vote for the adults in Obama's life being willing to lie to get what they want. Hmmm...
 
Old 04-26-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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Another vote for the adults in Obama's life being willing to lie to get what they want. Hmmm...
The step-father was not in the picture at the time of Obama's birth. A step-parent can call a four to eight year old kid any religion he wants but that doesn't mean the kid knew about it or understood a dare thing about that religion.

Birthers have not come up with one document proving Obama was born anywhere else but Hawaii. They've not come up with one plausible theory on why a mother would claim a Hawaii birth if he wasn't born there. They have not come up with one explanation on how she got around getting a newborn on an airplane without a valid birth certificate and passport which would have left a paper trail in Kenya, had he actually have been born there as they claim. Birthers have not explained why they keep overlooking Obama's Jakarta, Indonesia school records which says he was born in Hawaii.
 
Old 04-26-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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Hmmm... "Obama Has Never Been A Muslim"
Organizing for America | BarackObama.com

So, the Indonesian school registration would come down on the fraud side, as it specifically states that Obama is a member of the Islamic religion.

That's one vote so far for the adults in Obama's life being willing to lie at will to get what they want.
.... and if your parents told you about santa claus existing there is one vote that they are liars and frauds and will perpetually lie.
 
Old 04-26-2010, 03:20 PM
 
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It's a lot easier to perpetuate a fraud for decades when you refuse to release any of your records, isn't it?


You tell us. Is Obama's Indonesian school record, the one that lists him as an Indonesian citizen and a member of the Islamic religion truth? Or fraud?
Your first question, the answer would be no.

As regards the school record, it's perfectly valid for what it is. It's not like American citizens lose their citizenship for living in Indonesia, or for practicing the Islamic religion.
 
Old 04-26-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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did your parents ever leave gifts marked as from " santa " ?
 
Old 04-26-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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The step-father was not in the picture at the time of Obama's birth.
How about Obama's mother? Was she in the picture? Would she really not know that Obama's Indonesian school considered him an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim?

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...have not explained why they keep overlooking Obama's Jakarta, Indonesia school records which says he was born in Hawaii.
And says he is an Indonesian citizen, and a member of the Islamic religion, which Obama refutes on his website here:
Organizing for America | BarackObama.com

Obama's Indonesian school record. Does it contain facts? Or did Obama's parents knowingly lie and commit fraud?
 
Old 04-26-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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.... and if your parents told you about santa claus existing there is one vote that they are liars and frauds and will perpetually lie.
What does that have to do with citizenship?

There is documented evidence that either Obama is an Indonesian citizen, or his parents lied about his citizenship.
 
Old 04-26-2010, 03:33 PM
 
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What does that have to do with citizenship?

There is documented evidence that either Obama is an Indonesian citizen, or his parents lied about his citizenship.

just neede to quote this. will be back.
 
Old 04-26-2010, 03:36 PM
 
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this post honestly makes no sense. i don't know how to reply.

if you can break down the points you want to make i'd be happy to answer.

5. Sect. 2. ‘No person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; nor shall any person be elected to that office who shall be under the age of thirty-five years, and who has not been, in the whole, at least fourteen years a resident within the United States.’
This was 4 Sept 1787.

Why were the words or a citizen removed and natural born citizen kept if they have the same meaning?

No person except a citizen of the United States.......very simple and to the point..why not use the word citizen and omit natural born. Because they have different meanings. A citizen can have a foreign parent... a natural born cannot.

No person except a natural born citizen of the Unites States... Effective 7 Sept 1787

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