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Old 04-28-2010, 07:48 PM
 
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ooof. politically i don't like the idea but........ then again i'm not working for the hawaiian government. the article doesn't specify what defines " repeated requests " so i'm curious if the measure does. birthers have at the very least one chance to ask for info so....... hope it's a good question.

this is a self-fulfilling prophecy for the birthers. they nagged and nagged and nagged till they got shut off......... now they'll use the fact that they got shut off as absolute proof of a cover-up.

 
Old 04-28-2010, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Hawaii Legislature birther law has been voted on and passed. This Legislature measure allows the state of Hawaii to ignore repeated birther requests. The bill was needed because the state is receiving repeated requests over Barack Obama's birth certificate.

Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4,1961. This is listed in public records but the birther movement has doubts. They want to see the original copy of his birth certificate.

Those that have doubts about Obama's claim that he was really born in Kenya or Indonesia. If true, it prevents him from serving as President of the United States. Hawaii has already issued two statements confirming they have vital records proving the President is a natural-born American citizen.

Hawaii Legislature Birther
Hawaii officials are not an authority on the meaning ...natural born citizen..regarding Obama. It was coordinated by the Obama team to use the words natural born citizen..

Does it say any where on a birth certificate the words natural born citizen....the statements were political cover for Obama ..they were not professional. A natural born citizen requires two US citizen parents.
 
Old 04-28-2010, 08:01 PM
 
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Craziest birther site ever, Obama is a Nazi infiltrator trying to destroy the
Dems to get Jeb Bush elected.

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Old 04-28-2010, 08:12 PM
 
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Does it say any where on a birth certificate the words natural born citizen....the statements were political cover for Obama ..they were not professional. A natural born citizen requires two US citizen parents.
no where on a hawaiian COLB does it say " natural born citizen "......... nor anywhere in US law is NBC defined as only born from two US citizen parents.
 
Old 04-28-2010, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Natural law......what the son acquired belongs to the father...sui juris: all of his own descendents through the male line were in his power..

Vattel: 1758..the son naturally follow conditions of their father..

natural law..the law under which we are placed by our birth into the world..

Show me a valid birth certificate stating Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann are US citizens...all this will go away..I do not care where Obama was born.

Read the Founders books...not..the Obama talking points.
 
Old 04-28-2010, 08:22 PM
 
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Natural law......what the son acquired belongs to the father...sui juris: all of his own descendents through the male line were in his power..

Vattel: 1758..the son naturally follow conditions of their father..

natural law..the law under which we are placed by our birth into the world..

Show me a valid birth certificate stating Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann are US citizens...all this will go away..I do not care where Obama was born.

Read the Founders books...not..the Obama talking points.
Nah you can stew in this birther nonsense till Jan. 20, 2017!
Btw Vattel VATTEL wasn't one of the founders...
 
Old 04-28-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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We are searching for a translation of the word indigenes..in the Convention records..we are looking for translated copies of 1758 Vattel Law of Nations..there was one in London..we discovered a Vattel was translated to English in Dublin.

We have records the Founders ordered copies of Vattel from a publishing house in New York. We have records the Founders seized a shipment of two Vattel books being sent to British soldiers held prisoner.

A few days ago..we discovered a list of translations of Vattel to English.

We are looking at a letter by Jefferson written in French..where he used the word indigenes..

It is a matter of time..we locate the link..and the Obama team knows it..
 
Old 04-28-2010, 08:25 PM
 
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Natural law......what the son acquired belongs to the father...sui juris: all of his own descendents through the male line were in his power..

Vattel: 1758..the son naturally follow conditions of their father..
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none of that is US law.
 
Old 04-28-2010, 08:45 PM
 
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no where on a hawaiian COLB does it say " natural born citizen "......... nor anywhere in US law is NBC defined as only born from two US citizen parents.
Agreed. As a matter of fact, the US Supreme Court has never ruled on what defines a "natural born citizen".

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We are searching for a translation of the word indigenes..in the Convention records..we are looking for translated copies of 1758 Vattel Law of Nations..there was one in London..we discovered a Vattel was translated to English in Dublin.

We have records the Founders ordered copies of Vattel from a publishing house in New York. We have records the Founders seized a shipment of two Vattel books being sent to British soldiers held prisoner.

A few days ago..we discovered a list of translations of Vattel to English.

We are looking at a letter by Jefferson written in French..where he used the word indigenes..

It is a matter of time..we locate the link..and the Obama team knows it..
Who's this "we", Kemosabe? Who are you representing here on CD? Vattel was not a founding father. He did not write any US laws.

If you really don't like Obama, DC and buddies, why don't you work at electing someone else instead of on this lame cause?
 
Old 04-28-2010, 09:31 PM
 
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WHy cant the most powerful man in the world produce his birth certificate? The long form that everyone born in Hawaii during the same period has. Plenty of others born in that time period can produce theirs.
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