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Old 06-09-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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Well, what happened to them?

"This law and concept of claim to the subjects to the Crown, regardless of place of birth is still in effect in Great Britain, and had the effect of Congress passing a law that required all the officers and three fourths of the seamen on a ship of the United States be natural born citizens. (Journal of the House of Representatives of the United States, February 9, 1813)."

Vattel’s Influence on the term Natural Born Citizen
There's a difference between passing a law making someone a citizen, and requiring companies that own and staff ships to assure that the all the officers and the majority of other seamen be citizens.

It's like an early nineteenth century Homeland Security measure. They didn't have the means to do background investigations, so they did what they could to ensure the loyalty of seamen on American ships was to the United States.

 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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There is nothing racist in that video. Did you even listen to it?
 
Old 06-09-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: On Top
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There is nothing racist in that video. Did you even listen to it?
Nothing but the fact that it is a CofCC and Stormfront sponsored neo-nazi
radio show....
 
Old 06-09-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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I don't know much about these sponsors, I was just listening to the message. If it was out of line, I would not of posted it. The message is free of anything racist.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Hey, no discovery, no facts.
Except these:

LTC Lakin missed his movement, disobeyed three direct orders, and is in dereliction of duty.

None of those facts require discovery to establish.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Well, what happened to them?
Nothing they never existed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ergohead
"This law and concept of claim to the subjects to the Crown, regardless of place of birth is still in effect in Great Britain, and had the effect of Congress passing a law that required all the officers and three fourths of the seamen on a ship of the United States be natural born citizens. (Journal of the House of Representatives of the United States, February 9, 1813)."

Vattel’s Influence on the term Natural Born Citizen
That has nothing to do with the issue being discussed.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I don't know much about these sponsors, I was just listening to the message. If it was out of line, I would not of posted it. The message is free of anything racist.
The message is a lie. The source of the message is racist.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 03:52 PM
 
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Nothing they never existed.


That has nothing to do with the issue being discussed.
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Actually... no he wasn't. There are, in fact, no laws regarding American citizenship that "cover our military men and women" differently from any other foreign born child of American citizens. There was a special law passed for Americans (both military and civilian) born in the Canal Zone, and even though it was not passed until the year after McCain was born, it was retroactive to 1904.

But no special laws for the military exist.
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Well, what happened to them?

"This law and concept of claim to the subjects to the Crown, regardless of place of birth is still in effect in Great Britain, and had the effect of Congress passing a law that required all the officers and three fourths of the seamen on a ship of the United States be natural born citizens. (Journal of the House of Representatives of the United States, February 9, 1813)."

Vattel’s Influence on the term Natural Born Citizen
Wha'd you say?


YouTube - Ray Charles 'What I Say' 1964
 
Old 06-09-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Wha'd you say?
That that has nothing to do with the issue being discussed.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Deport the birthers
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