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Old 06-14-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by zeitgeist2012 View Post
Just because you progressive parrots can call people names or liberal buzz words like racist it does not negate or challenge the validity of the clerks claims. Provide a proven original bith certificate then you can call him a liar. Instead Obama is the liar and criminal president.... This is not hearsay....
Actually... it is hearsay. He even pretty much admits that he has direct personal knowledge of essentially nothing. He claims that his "bosses" told him stuff, or that they received e-mails or phone calls (he's not sure which), but he's pretty careful to avoid claiming he has any actual direct knowledge of anything.

The best part though is that his story is so patently idiotic. He was supposedly involved in checking the identities of voters. But Obama was not a voter in Hawaii in 2008. So what would he be checking?

He provides a similar goofy absurdity when he opines that some 50 diplomats had their voting files stolen so that they could be blackmailed regarding whether or not they voted for Obama. This story is an epic fail on multiple levels.

First off... as I'm sure most of us know, our votes are by secret ballot. Our "voting files" do not contain any record of how we actually voted. You'd think an "election official" might know that. But of course, we're really just talking about an office temp.

But more to the point, he left the job in August, after he claims the files were stolen. How would files from August or earlier record a vote that wouldn't take place for another three months?

This guy could not think his way out of Chinese thumb handcuffs.



There are so many holes in this silly tale it is another testament to the credulity of Birthers that they pay any attention to it.

 
Old 06-14-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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"There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."
And yet he never gets around to actually naming a single one of them.

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Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe
"They told us, 'We don't have a birth certificate for him,'" he said. "They told my supervisor, either by phone or by e-mail, neither one has a document that a doctor signed off on saying they were present at this man's birth."
So he doesn't know if it was an e-mail or phone call? Well, that pretty much shows that the hospitals told him exactly nothing.

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Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe
"In my professional opinion, he definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."
Office temps have "professional opinions?" Who knew?
 
Old 06-14-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: On Top
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DC you're getting nowhere fast, try getting some fresh air...
 
Old 06-14-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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DC.... I will ask a question I have asked you several times already and that you keep running away from.

Can you identify a single founder or framer who ever quoted De Vattel approvingly on any issue of citizenship?
 
Old 06-14-2010, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/Nugenttranslation.png (broken link)
 
Old 06-14-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Why are the two posts on the word definitions important? The translator is Thomas Nugent.
 
Old 06-14-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why are the two posts on the word definitions important?
They're not. In the slightest.
 
Old 06-14-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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They're not. In the slightest.
Nugent was the translator of the 1797 English Edition of Vattel's Law of Nations.
 
Old 06-14-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Nugent was the translator of the 1797 English Edition of Vattel's Law of Nations.
About 10 years too late to care.
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